Sound of cables breaking in?


When I try cables, of various types, I find that when I first put them in, they give me a little taste of what they will sound like after they are broken in. Then, things get strange, and the sound can vary all over the place, until they finally settle in.

Who else has similar experience? I'm thinking people sometimes give up on a particular cable during this volatile period, and never get to what it really sounds like.
tommylion

Showing 2 responses by williewonka

@tommylion - as others have posted what you have experienced is quite normal.

I've had cables that required over 120 hours to start sounding good again and after that they got better, but sounded their best at around the 350 hour mark.

It depends on many factors including metallurgy of the conductors, insulation used and the cable geometry - i.e. how the conductors are aligned within the sleeve.

I tend to install them on a system and then stream music from the internet for about a week before listening seriously.

I've also experienced it with connectors and plugs, so it applies to most things in the audio chain.

Hope that helps - Steve


@pc997 - You make a good point...
Without any objective measurement, how can we differentiate conductive qualities between a $5/ft copper cable and $500/ft copper cable? Purely subjective??
You should be able to see/measure the leading/trailing edge of a square wave using a very good oscilloscope. This would assist identifying the "conductive" nature (e.g. the dynamic performance) of the metallic component, e.g. silver generally has faster dynamics than copper.

But an oscilloscope is not something most people have in their back pocket. :-)

The most reliable tool we all have available is our ears - which can easily detect the dynamic nature, tone and clarity aspects of a cable’s performance.

My own personal experiences and observations are...

I spent a few years years delving into different metals, insulation and geometries, I’ve found that "Generally" (i.e. in my own "laymen’s" terms)
- the metallic component of a cable impacts the dynamic performance, e.g. silver is faster than copper
- insulation can impact the tone (e.g. brightness) of a cable due to the effect of internal capacitance.
- geometry tends to effect the overall clarity of the cable, e.g. its ability to minimize internal noise issues
- and connectors have a significant impact on dynamics and clarity

And I say "Generally" because it is far a more complex process than just those three things, to produce cables capable of extremely good qualities. e.g.
- the insulation in combination with the geometry is directly related to the capacitance of a cable
- The gauge of the neutral in relation to the gauge of signal conductor has an impact on the dynamics and clarity.
- each cable has its own effect on the performance of components it is connecting.

But for anyone wanting to delve into the science of cables - those three aspects are a very good place to start their investigations.

And these are just my observations based solely on using my ears.

What astounded me was just how good my ears actually are and their ability to discern the subtle differences as each one on the above had changes applied.

Agreed - being able to "measure" the individual improvements introduced by each of these three things would be to everyone’s advantage.

But we all have a very good detection device built in - we just have to take the time to train our ears in what to listen for. This took me around four years and I am still learning, so it is NOT a trivial task.

Scientific? - No
Subjective? very much so
Enlightening? - oh yes
Effective - definitely

I definitely trust my ears - Steve :-)