Sonically -Cardas the difference between the CLEAR Loudspeaker cable ,and CLEAR BEYOND

,,,,,Stringreen ???? .......you there Stringreen ???? This about your time to chime in on Cardas cables !!

Pangea SE MK-2=only use Cardas grade 1 copper on one of the main leggs and in much smaller gauge ,it’s a good selling point though , I owned them ,and still may have one to my LPS  power supply 

I just wish ONE of these cable makers would have the balls to explain the engineering and scientific methodology they used to design their cables!! If I’m not mistaken, Cardas is one of the few that says they utilize trial and error to find combinations of wires that actually yield a difference in sound. They still can’t explain the science!……

@boostedis 

CARDAS has two main factors : 

(1) their proprietary best of breed copper . 
see https://www.cardas.com/cardas-copper

(2);Design, process and engineering.

- deep dive into their cables   https://www.cardas.com/deep-dive
 

- CARDAS latest patent

George Cardas continued to work on cable designs, most recently receiving US Patent US7674973B2 for what we call the Matched Propagation Conductor. This conductor matches the propagation rate of the signal in the conductor, which is essentially light speed, to that of the dielectric materials, which are generally 30% slower than the speed of light. 

This mismatch has plagued audio cables since the beginning of the telephone age, causing smeared, unintelligible audio over long distances. Telephone companies attempted to solve the issue using loading coils, developed by Mihajlo Pupin in the early 20th century. George’s solution is much more graceful - and effective - utilizing specific wire-winding pitches and carefully selected dielectric materials, eliminating the issue within the cable, and continuously throughout the cable.

Our Matched Propagation Conductors are used in all of our cables within the Clear range, which includes Clear Sky, Clear Cygnus, Clear SE9 MP, Clear Reflection, Clear, and Clear Beyond.

Go look up their patent in the patents registry office to get further published deets or other reference materials,

- failing this, g email Josh Meredith at CARDAS and get a perspective from the source .

@akg_ca 

Thanks you for the information, it goes MUCH further than most of the Megabuck cable manufacturers (Nordost). 
 

I understand the interaction between conductor and dielectric as it mostly relates to capacitance and how that can affect the audio signal. My real issue is the differences that are claimed and cost to get there. IMO, people blow right past one of the biggest makers of commercial copper wire who has supplied to the Telecom industry and NASA, etc. where absolute fidelity is way more important than for hobbyists. That company being Belden. They will take a deep dive with you on what matters and why. I even suspect that a LOT of boutique cable companies are actually using Belden wire and twisting it in exotic ways and with dubious results.

I’m only partially a ‘measurements means everything’ person, but I do believe in the scientific method and when companies can’t explain their methodology behind product development, it says they really didn’t use one and the outcome was a stab in the dark and their results might not be able to be faithfully reproduced because they don’t even know how they got to the end result.

Thanks for listening.