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Simple snake oil detection

Hi there were soooo many posts asking af any given device, toy, tweak or component is snake oil.
I’m not considered to be disbeliever or engineering guru at all. All I know and use is elementary math.

If an amp worth more than new Bmw, I can kinda take that with grain of salt, but if a wire is worth more than stainway grand, I am DEFINITELY sure snake oil is there without even questioning if this particular product makes sense 

So now any audio device can be plugged into the detection formula above to truthfully define snake oil. All you need to know is product name, description and asking price.

czarivey

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cleeds
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I really wish the bickering here would stop. But, because it endures:
gdhal
Nothing was promoted. You (clearthink) gladly accepted a genuine challenge that you’re unable and/or unwilling to participate in. And why? Because *YOU CANNOT* audibly hear a difference if ordinary speaker wire is reversed. So what we have here in fact isn’t about anything fraudulent on my part but the exposure of you as a liar.
Actually, gdhal, you did promote a $25,000 challenge that was based on an unscientific protocol. This is from an earlier post of yours:

I’m using Belden 5T00UP speaker wire .. I have a business proposition ... a blind or double blind test where it is my position that you *cannot* reliably hear a difference, and it would be your position that you could reliably hear a difference.

If interested, and if the amount is worthwhile (low five figures?) we can have our attorney’s draw up the contracts, establish an escrow account and so on.
Later, you specified the $25,000 "reward," but that and a lot of other details about your "offer" were deleted by moderators.

cleeds
6,070 posts
 
czarivey
All you need to know is product name, description and asking price.
Perhaps that’s all that you need to know, but I don’t judge effectiveness based on price. What you describe seems to be a formula for evaluating value, not "snake oil," which is a term bandied about here with much too great ease, imo.

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