Should I replace the crossover capacitors in my vintage AR 3a speakers?


Am restoring a set of vintage AR 3a's.  Removed original capacitors and checked all three of them fom each speaker (6 total) with an Atlas ESR70 tester.  Every one of them checked out like they were new.  I then checked some brand new capacitors I had recently purchased for another project and they all check out as new (did this to ensure the meter was functioning correctly).  Should I replace or continuing using the originals in the speakers?

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Good info here from @erik_squires ​​​​​​

Only two things I would add to it:

- The ESR-as-part-of-the-design consideration is most likely to create an issue when a person decides to replace electrolytics with film caps, which have low ESR. As long as you replace same with same you should be OK

- If you’re going to get a Dayton Audio DATS, you’re likely to get the best price from Parts Express since Parts Express owns Dayton Audio

Personally I lean more to the side of leaving well enough alone when appropriate, which is when the factory used high quality components, and those components still test well within spec (of course you always test caps out of circuit). A crossover is not like a Class A amp in which caps are literally being baked to a crisp.

 

Indeed, specifically old elctrolytics. Film to film is usually OK.

What I find amusing is when modders replace old electrolytics wiht film caps, removing 0.5 Ohms of ESR or more in the process and then proclaim what a difference it makes. Well, yeah, it kind of has to at that point, for good or ill. Same with changint DCR in coils without understanding the whole circuit.  When I make speaker crossovers I specifically pick among the various gauge coils to get a specific final sound.  I don't get small gauge coils for cost savings.

Not saying good caps don’t make a difference. Just saying it’s good to know what’s changing.

I've recapped similar speakers, most recently, my AR58S speakers.  As in the 3a, it's a 12" 3-way, using dome mids and tweeters.  My 58S's used Unicon branded electrolytic caps, which still sounded very good.  Though, I didn't measure their capacitance or ESR, as both can drift after decades of use.

When recapping, I always mod 1 speaker, and then compare it to the stock speaker.  That allows me to hear any initial differences, and if a balance adjustment needs to be made, I can add small value resistors in series with the capacitors, to compensate.

I do like boutique caps.  Most often using Mundorf and or ClarityCap films.  With this recap, I used Mundorf EVO Oils for the tweeters and ClarityCap CSA's on the mids.  Bypassed NPE's on the woofers.  After the recap, the treble sounded great, both open and airy, but the mids were very recessed and opaque on it's upper end. I let the CSA caps play for weeks, without much improvement.  In the end, I added bypass caps to them, which helped restore midrange balance.  I haven't used ClarityCaps on the mids since.  While good with a bypass cap, I found them too rolled off without.  Now, I typically use all Mundorf caps.  Jantzen and Audyn caps are said to be very good as well, though I haven't personally used those.

Good luck.