Do yourself a big favor and purchase 8 feet of this Western Electric NOS
wire from the 70s. It will cost you some $15 and be as good or better than
cables costing you hundreds or thousands new or used. Just strip the ends
and connect the bare wire for the best sound. The copper strands are
tinned so no worries about oxidation.
No hype here, but just honest to goodness beautiful sounding cable. Many
are just now learning about it and know what a wonderful buy it is. I cannot
overstate the joy loaded in the big smile these will give you.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231598278893
Read this......
http://jeffsplace.me/wordpress/?p=7469
The very best speaker cables I have owned, and I have owned many, cost
$1800 new and were a value compared to others I tried costing even more.
I like this WE16ga as much in most sonic areas. I know it seems too good
to be true and we have all heard the same thing about Mogami and others.
Well I tried Mogami and others and they were not giant killers....but good.
This WE16ga is the real deal..... at last.
I like it so much that I have ordered enough to wire my outboard crossover
and speaker internals with it. I will also use it inside my electronics in critical
signal paths. |
I have never found stranded copper to sound as good as solid core...never. That is until this stuff came along. Important to always be open minded in this hobby. This wire bests the finest silver cables I have owned also. I don't understand why, but it simply sounds beautiful. |
Mikirob, which model of the Arizona caps and where can one buy them? I have never seen then at the usual parts stores like Parts Connextion etc.. |
Mitch2, I am replacing and have replaced the Jupiter wire you mention as
this stuff is much better sounding. Hard to believe...I know.
I would not try to do anything special in terms of doubling up the gauge
etc... Until you simply try one run for positive and one for negative. Do this
first! I am not sure combining for increased gauge will help or hurt!
All of the positive comments are based on using just one 16ga run for each
leg. More is not always better. |
Mikirob, the Jupiter caps are special, very special. Not sure about the
Arizona caps? Just not sure. I have done MUCH cap rolling and the
Jupiters come out on top. I bet Yazaki-San has not even tried them to be
honest. If the Arizona caps are cheap enough I will compare.
I will be using the WE16a wire inside my amps also. Not ready for the
Arizona cap thing yet as I have to say I seriously doubt the Arizona cap is
as good as the Jupiter. |
Yeah, went to that site and cannot find the caps in question. Need to make a call it seems. I bet the builder has not heard the Jupiter or Duelund caps, but it would be an interesting comparison. The builder seems to use the Arizona caps like a chef makes a recipe. A little of this cap and a little of that cap flavor to suit...... Hard to know which one cap to use in a coupling position or output position. The blue or green Catus? He uses both to taylor the sound recipe.
I found the Jupiter caps to be the most neutral of all caps and just reveals the music wonderfully. |
Back to the original poster.....did you decide on a cable? I sure hope you try the WE16a for less than the cost of shipping other branded speaker cables :) |
Yes, I doubled up on the runs and when combined with the Belden IC the net result is awesome. The sum of the two together is greater than the individual greatness of each.
This has to be one of the greatest all time audio buys. How could this have been such a hidden gem all these years! The Belden 8402 and the WE16ga must be heard together for the full greatness to be heard. I also feel two runs of the WE16 per pole sounds better than one run. More body and weight with all of the same layering and beauty. |
I have heard the Mogami and the 8402 will amaze you! No kidding. I have built Mogami ic's and speaker cables in the past and the Belden is special or should I saw more special :) |
Here is the link. They build them just like the Jeff Day site and expert amp
builder suggest using the same Switchcraft connectors and special solder.
Need to buy two for a set of two. Takes about 4 days to make a set and
ship out.
They take about 36 hours to settle in. You will be very pleased.
http://btpa.com/IC8402-XX.html
I sold $1000 Kimber for these and my sound is better to my ears and taste. |
They will build them for you. Are you wanting to build your own? If not, just order the set from the site and they will build them for you with all the right parts etc...they follow the Jeff Day blog recipe. |
Listening to my system today was a real joy. I continue to shake my head on the money I had spent in the past on wire. For $150 in total for wire, my system has never sounded better. I did not think this wire would better my wonderful cables. To say I am still shocked is an understatement. I have tried other highly touted griant killers and they never made it to that status, these do! |
The mogami is not nearly as good though it is a good value still. |
Welcome Phil. This combo is simply as good as it gets. Astounding value. |
Oldcar, get the Belden and it well get better......so much so you may cry! |
Mikirob, thanks for turning us all onto this based on your comments in another thread. You were spot on! Some will not be opened minded enough to believe this and others may think it is just another flavor of the day. Oh my I sure wish every Aphile would try some and learn first hand.
I suppose it is possible some systems and ears would prefer another set of wires. I feel very strongly that the WE16 wire should be doubled up and run with the Belden ICs for the full effect. Others have tried this and feel the same way. I just finished putting the WE wire in my speakers. |
Where did the original go? Please tell us what you did as we are interested
in your final choice. |
I finished putting the WE wire inside my speakers, my outboard crossover
and even inside both my amps! Sublime for sure.
Have fun with your projects!
May try the Arizona caps at $25 per cap. The Jupiter caps are so special I
am dragging my feet on this one. Not sure if I should get the blue or green
Catus. Called Arizona Cap and they were absolutely no help at all. They
have no idea what their caps sound like!
The Jeff Day article is vague at best on how to use both caps in general. It
seems like trial and error for each piece of gear by mixing the two. Not sure
I want to go there..... |
Ok, forget everything you think about tinned and stranded etc.....this wire will destroy past understandings. Really. No connectors is by far the best! Please just use bare wire if possible. Give it all 30 hours before comment! |
Good for you Oldcar63. You are open minded and that will work to your great benefit. Please let them run for at least 30-50 hours as they will sound closed in and bright at first. They will end up open and so wonderfully natural sounding! |
