Shocked removed spikes, used blue tack, what other non spike footer


My floor standing speakers, monitor stands always came with spikes so I used them always, it's the way they were designed at least I thought. I know everyone can't do this because of there floor type, mine is hardwood over concrete slab. Bass, more natural tone( I'm a tone junkie)  gives the music a nice rhythm, may just be flavor of month but I'm really enjoying it. Highs maybe little rolled off, I just did it yesterday, maybe not as hifi, but no lose of information. Have other people experienced this.Can someone with my floor type suggest a nice reasonable priced non spiked footer, these are floorstander filled with shot so pretty heavy,maybe 70- 80 lb. thanks

paulcreed

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Cheeg I don't care if you ask, I've heard people put glass cutting boards granite, paver stones or wood with spikes then speaker on top if it, maybe some sorbathane or even cheap blue tack between glass and speaker. II looked at Gaia's, $300 to $200 for 4, that a little high for second system speakers. I know about vibra pods or herbies but never used any rubber under component it always seem to dead in sound. Not the case under floorstander with blue tak.There should be something better than blue tak, I have used blue tak between spiked monitor stand and speaker with good results. With blue tak floorstander is like glued to the floor it does not move and sounds very natural, still a little dumbfounded with the change.

What drew my interest to remove spikes was Music Direct sent me a catalog of just loudspeakers displayed. The Revel Performa F228Be $1000.00 towers has no spikes just a plastic or rubber base surrounding the speaker, in fact all there speakers displayed had no spikes. I had some Joseph Audio towers it had a base with small screws holding it on with spikes then mounted to base maybe best of both worlds, I don't know. I never knew what an impact spikes make. We spend all this money on cables, platforms, cartridges, tubes to bring out the best and then to find spikes in my system leaned everything out. I still feel in need to find a happy medium between blue tak and spikes, system feel like it lost a little air, even with that loss I'm enjoying things more with blue tak. I always heard if you have carpet you have to pierce through to get to get best sound,sounds like that's could be up for debate also.
Gary which herbies product did you have spikes sitting on? Did you find spikes leaned your Tannoys. Did herbies bring back a happy medium on spikes between lean and full sound,sorry for all the questions, thanks

Audiopoints, I enjoy any insight and enjoyed your post, I do not want to remove informative information from anyone. I'm still in the dark on what to use. If there is a different spike that would not lean out speaker I'm open to it. If there is a rubber type product, I would like to know. I just don't want to buy I pile of footers and find it does no better than $3.00 blue tak. Damaging floor with blue tak is a concern. The only non spike products I know are vibration pods and herbies. The Gaia at $600 is a big gamble. I'm open to contacting audiopoint or they can pm me. I'm still in same place when I started this thread, blue tak still under my speakers. 
Open baffle you don't hear the box. These speakers front baffle is larger than back panel with curved sides. There's got to be a happy medium between spikes and compounds. For the hell of it I put the spikes back on an hour ago and listened for 10 minutes, totally different sound. It was like I changed interconnects from cardas to kimber silver streaks. Totally different system. Spikes more transparent. Blue tak sounds bigger, thicker, heavier no loss of highs just different. With blue tak the speakers are like cemented to the floor, they do not move, spikes slight movement. I need to bring the blue tak sound very slightly closer to spike presentation. I'm taking spike off again, blue tak is more musical to me but at a cost.

I had some mdf laying around drilled counter hole, mounted spikes and placed blue tak between mdf platform. Sounds more refined but in a good way and little fuller than just spikes but lost that natural tone even though is a little too heavy, I'm back on blue tak. Raining 4 days, stuck inside. Crossover is outboard I'm going to remove solid copper post and go straight in to crossover with solid core silver speaker wire. Maybe that will remove some of the thick sound and lift the highs, if not I'll try herbies first. Can someone explain what Gaia' do different than spikes, is it really worth the cost. Never knew footers had such an impact, it's pretty drastic in my case.

These speakers go down to 27hz and have nice bass even with spikes at low volume not only hear bass but feel it too, but no spikes just seem to appeal to me since there removal.Removing Cardas all copper binding post with speaker wire going straight into crossover brought back a lot of air and clarity. They do have ambiance rear tweeter with volume knob I had to adjust a little.( I've always kept it fairly low and still do). One problem with blue tak was piano, the sharpness and projection was muffled a little and not true, that is pretty much gone. This is not the way I planned to solve footer problem with rewire but it's helped a lot with piano and highs. It will hold me over till I can find solution to replace spikes. I still have caps to install so this will help too, this is a strange hobby. Still open to suggestion even if I had to do Gaia but damn for $600 it better be like a small component change not a tweek.

Thanks for that one select-hifi you made the GAIA look like a bargain. $2000.00 for a couple platforms , if I was so rich I couldn't spend all my money in a life time they would be on a UPS truck heading my way., just to see what they could do. Looks like I may be GAIA bound for $400 if I can get away with the cheapest ones with my weight. I was just looking for footers for second system, if they work, I'm going to have to try them on my Joseph's if that works I'll have to buy another set, will all this ever end. At least Music Direct has a 30 day return policy. I called them to ask if they had any returned GAIA's for a discount was told nobody returns them, that's a good sign. Do most people have good luck with spikes on other floor types because most all speakers are sold with spikes. Or am I just an odd ball that it doesn't work for. Or is it most people don't know to get rid of there spikes.