Seriously considering tube preamp…opinions?


Tube virgin, here. I am building a system and I'm trying to contain the preamp/amp cost to $3k or so. (I could go up a little.) 

I'm inclined not to dive into tubes all the way through, but get a solid state on the output end. (Open to suggestions; inclined toward PS Audio, Parasound.) I'm reading around about tube preamps and have talked with my local dealer, who sells Black Ice/Jolida and Prima Luna (PL). He used to carry Rogue but said they kept coming back for repairs. That's why he carries PL.

I'm asking these questions after having established (via reviews, comments) that Schiit gear is quite the value. Lately, I've been reading about Decware and other small tube makers. I'm very curious about buying direct, if possible, and a company that stands behind their products is crucial.

So, your opinions about tube integrated or *especially* tube preamps —

1. Who do you like? Consider I want to do pre/amp for a total of $3k if possible.

2. Do you think PL is worth all that money just for a preamp? I get the feeling they're high quality but a bit over-hyped. (No disrespect to the highly passionate Kevin Deal, but he's all over my search results.) And what would you think about $2k/$1k preamp-to-amp spending ratio?

3. Any sense of what happened to Jolida since the name change to "Black Ice"? I see there's a sordid story there but did the re-branding clear up the mess? Any experiences with the Black Ice company?

4. I know there are many Schiit fans out there; so my question would be -- did anyone consider Schiit for tube preamp and go another way? Or move beyond Schiit for any particular reason? It's hard not to just capitulate and do a Freya+ or Saga+ but why wouldn't one just go with Schiit?




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.also note that the guitar amp world soldiers on using a lot of tubes, with new amp designs (and reissues of old amp designs) coming along all the time. Don't fear the tube...they simply make music sound a lot like it's supposed to.
While I tend to agree with most of your posts on this topic, this old chestnut has to be surrendered to the trash pile where it belongs. I play around with the guitar only, but I go to a hell of a lot of live shows. Most recently Dweezil Zappa playing all of "Hot Rats". Modern guitar playing involves a lot of intentional distortion. Every hot guitarist with chops relies on a ton of effects pedals in addition to the intentional distortion produced by the tubed stacks. If you happen to get the Sweetwater catalog (which I strongly recommend for any audiophile to see the overlap with our hobby in terms of speakers, mixers, DAC's and lots of Manley pro gear on offer too), you will see that there are more pages devoted to effects pedals than any other musician's tool under the sun. It is simply amazing. Btw, this makes me think of Raulgas with his stupid motto "musics and not distortions" [sic]. Well guess what, a lot of recorded music contains a lot of intentional distortion including even classical music, but mostly rock and modern jazz.