Room Nucleus+ vs what for dCS


I’m considering a Roon Nucleus+ for streaming to dCS DACs. DCS says networked streaming is superior to USB on their DACs. As such, the easiest way to get content from local is a Roon Core. Is there any sonic advantage to something more expensive? The Nucleus will not be co-located with the audio rack - but will run on Ethernet and there will be no Wifi in the path. It seems like for networked listening, as long as the device can serve up the file quickly, there shouldn’t be a sonic advantage to other devices, but would certainly welcome information to the contrary. 
mayoradamwest

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@tuberist there are many options. What I’m trying to understand is if there really is any sonic difference between them if running over Ethernet and the core is not located near the rack. 
Bartok and Rossini. No reason to use WiFi. House is wired and WiFi will always be inconsistent due to interference and overlapping zones. (Running a Unifi setup)
@audiotroy you kept saying direct for Ethernet. I would love to understand how a Innous Statement located in a different part of my house, running as a Roon core, would sound better than a Roon Nucleus. It should be a purely digital signal and noise shouldn’t be an issue given they aren’t co-located and the Ethernet goes through a filter before arriving at the dCS. I’m not saying you’re wrong - I just want to understand how this is possible. 
@audiotroy i do not doubt anything you are saying (and I was incorrect on pricing - I was looking at CAD not USD). I’ve also read things to contrary, and in this industry, what I’ve learned is that everything is subjective and there will be people on both sides arguing they are right and their way sounds better. DCS directly claims Ethernet is better on *their* HW. They don’t claim this for all HW. Just theirs. My trusted shop said they tested and agree. On Roon forums, both Roon employees and members seem to strongly prefer the Nucleus over the underpowered Zenith. So if anyone is cheaping out on parts, it’s Innous. The biggest complaint is that the underpowered Zenith is not able to easily cope with large libraries and searching will be slow. I hear your opinion and understand it. What Id like to hear is from people in the field and experiences, especially those not working at a shop selling me something. Surely you can see the conflict in interest with both you and my local shop.
The dCS is fed to the main router (through a Transparent isolator). This is how the dCS Mosiac app can see the device. Mosiac can play Qobuz and Tidal directly (along with local USB and some other services). This is the functionality of the dCS network bridge. DCS says Ethernet sounds better than USB direct. 
Then we get to Roon. The dCS Network Bridge is a Roon endpoint so a Roon Cores can play to it, using Streaming services as well as local storage for the Roon core. 
The question here is, why would the Roon core, located in another part of the house, affect sound by having the improvements on Innous? I completely understand those improvement when connected directly via USB. 
Now, my trusted hifi shop says they would love to sell me something more expensive, but the Roon Nucleus sounds great over Ethernet. The threads I can see on Computer Audiophile seem to verify. I was skeptical so came here to ask. The trouble with @audiotroy is, while he seems very nice, and I do like his posts, he has an interest in it, as he wants to sell a $20,000 Innous Statement. So more data is required. 
I just looked at the wrong number. I’m in the SF Bay Area. The only Innous dealer is Audio Vision SF, and last time I asked them, they told me I had to pay $250 to have the privilege of listening to an amp in their shop. Needless to say, I will never step foot in there. Also, I hear you @audiotroy but I want non-dealer opinions too.