REVEL performa3 f208 or TEKTON Moab


I have about 5 grand to spend on loudspeakers.  Of these 2, Tekton Moab and Revel performa3 f208, which one would you goners buy? Or any recommendations? I have an old Krell FPB 400CX, Ayre K5xe mp, Wadia 321 Dac, VPI Classic turntable. 
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mofojo I think speaks for us all.

Meanwhile, on a more edifying note, 
listening99, on his Moabs:
Sonically, I can sit in amazement over good recordings, just constantly drawn into the subtlety, surprised by the percussive realism, intrigued by the soundstage nuance. The Moabs reveal layers. I love the layering of sound. I've recently been listening to Jack Johnson's "Sleep through the Static" and I can't get enough of the sensitivity that Johnson has crafted, which the Moabs communicate, effortlessly.

...there is no real reason to look for something better. That "hunting" instinct is alive, in me, but I've nowhere to go (sonically), unless I want to shell out MUCH more, and I know that while there may be new possibilities and discoveries that my happiness is more about actually listening, actually sitting down, actually discovering more about the ocean of sound. The Moabs are not holding back... ...and I'm relishing the results of my risk taking...

Well said. Incredibly satisfying speakers. Couldn't be happier. 




I think my old Krell FPB 400CX will power the F208's with 400 wpc in to 8 ohms, 800 into 4, 1600 into 2. I have ordered f208's. they are coming this week.

Bear in mind one tube watt equals about three to five or more solid state watts. Turns out running the signal through all those extra wires and circuits chokes the life right out of the music. Had a friend with some monster Krell monoblocks couldn't hold a candle to my 60 watt Aronov. Thus Robert Harley's famous quip, "If the first watt isn't any good why would you want 200 more of them?" 

On the fence between Moab and Double impact se tekton to compare.
Search around, those who have heard them feel the Moab is a significant step up, with Encore and Ulf each being a little better still.  

The big step seems to be going to the full MTM array. This creates what is in effect one incredibly high quality 9" midrange/tweeter capable of covering everything from around 270 Hz to 20kHz. This is the range the ear is most sensitive to and accounts for the number of people saying the midrange is perfect. Once you get the full MTM in the Moab it becomes an exercise in refinement. So not the best but it sure seems to be the sweet spot. 

The wild card is if you decide to go for full Be. Not just the one tweeter, all of them. Big price bump but that is where you start to get into real giant killer territory.
Millercarbon I would have to bring the Krell in tow to hear your Moabs as I would be crying hearing your wimpy 50 wpc tube integrated choke out at the music and listening levels I listen to.


Them's fightin’ words.
Cue MC...

Any time. Put up or shut up.
So much nonsense. All in ignorance. Stunning, off the charts ignorance. Come by and hear. Heck just read the comments on my system page. From those who actually heard Moabs, driven by 50 tube watts. Integrated. 

Slaughtered. Good one. Takes me back to what, the 70's? Crack me up. 

Just one thing if you do ever come, don't forget the drool cup.
Reading through the comments its clear you either don't know anything about Tekton Moabs or worse have been misled into believing a lot of the blather which in turn comes from people who don't know anything about Tekton Moabs.  

The sensitivity thing has been covered to death. Whatever you measure the fact remains these are tremendously efficient speakers that will play crazy headbanger loud even with a relatively low power tube amp. My Melody is 50wpc and at half volume its louder than I can take it for more than a song or two, and that's in a 17x24x9 room. https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367

The "proper midrange" canard, what you mean is it doesn't have a traditional midrange. Proper it most certainly is. Probably the best midrange you are likely ever to hear. The combined power of the MTM array is equivalent to a 9" midrange. 

But a 9" midrange is a lot of mass. So what normal makers do is spend a fortune on expensive materials and design trying to get the fast flat response the midrange requires. What Eric does instead is use the combined power of 15 tweeters. Each one of these measures flatter and faster than any 9" midrange. But he achieves this with relatively inexpensive off the shelf drivers.  

This works because the technology of MTM is so superior to the old tech of companies like Revel. 

The fear of tweeters not having excursion is of course totally unwarranted. First of all, you already know even the little Enzo XL plays plenty loud, and that is with fewer lower quality drivers. Moabs with 15 tweeters put out more power, faster and flatter, than just about any 9" midrange- certainly more than any midrange within your budget. 

The one thing I will grant the haters, these are not museum piece speakers. They are speakers for people who want the absolute best in sound quality their money can possibly buy. Sound quality. Not bragging rights to shiniest cool finish. They look just good enough to live with, and that is about it. Which is fine with me.

Listen, I don't really care which speakers you wind up with. That's your personal decision. Just don't want to stay silent while so much misleading information is flying around. Which it always is around here. Trying to keep up with the parrots blathering whatever it was they heard another parrot blather is a full time job around here. 

I do agree with the one who said buy the superior technology. That would have to be Tekton. Something that particular poster will realize for himself if only he takes the time to learn and consider and understand just what that technology actually is, instead of like the other haters making snide snarky comments and innuendo. Eric's MTM array and low stiction/friction/mass technology is so superior he is able to offer a $15k speaker for only $5k. 

There now. The haters ought to be triggered well and good after that little truth session. Good luck and happy listening!
I wouldn’t touch the Revel with a ten foot pole, if for no other reason than at only 88dB sensitivity you’ll never find an amp to drive them. A choice made even more tragic when the alternative Tekton Moab is such a superb speaker, a good 10dB more efficient, and one of the great bargains in high end audio. I’ve had mine about 6 months now and happier with them every day. My 50wpc tube amp drives them beautifully, and if you want, at crazy loud levels. But they do not need to be loud to open up and sound good.

They sound fabulous with every type of music, and I really do mean everything from rock to jazz and swing, classical, all of it. The midrange is perfect, the bass outstanding, and the whole presentation top to bottom is seamless. They are imaging champs capable of completely disappearing. Mine with the crossover, wiring and Cardas terminals upgrades came in right at $5k. About the only downside is the wait time. But rest assured they will be worth the wait!