Retip for zyx

This is an old thread so my post was based on experience with

Axel Schurholz but without any experience with ZYX kinds.

I now own ZYX Airy and, say, know what I am talking about.

The cantilever/stylus construction by ZYX is different in

comparison with all other carts. On the ''nose'' of the (boron)

cantilever one can see an small tube in which the stylus is

fastened. There is obviously no hole in the cantilever in which

a new stylus can be fitted. So the only option is to exchange

the whole cantilever/stylus combo. This retip kind will cost about

$500. The stylus (alone) retip about $200 (180 GBP by Expert

stylus UK). As is mentioned elsewhere stylus alone retip is

the least problematic. But, according to me, not possible by ZYX.

Dear chakstr, As we usually say : ''it depends..''. In present

case it depends from what you mean by ''No one can do the

same''? Identity relation is pretty complex. ''Relation'' imply

at least two objects. But Wittgenstein stated:  '' for two objects

to state that they are identical make no sense and to say that

every object is identical with itself says nothing''. One can

actually state that two ZYX carts are not identical but, hopeful

''equal''. Something like two eggs. I have no idea how two eggs

sound but two ZYX Airy should sound ''equal''. Shame that

postage to Russian Federation is so expensive. Otherwise I

would post my ZYX , retipped by Axel,  to you so you could do

the comaprison. Apriori statements like this may impress

Kantians but not Fregean kinds of persons (grin).

@gilles130 , As you can see in my post I don't believe that by

ZYX only the stylus can be retiped. Well the whole cantilever/

stylus combo. There are only few producers of cantilevers and

styli in the world. From this follows that retipper as well as the

cart producers have the same supplier. Gluing such cantilever/

stylus combo in the ''joint pipe'' is no big deal. This job can be

done by any retipper.

Dear chakster, Comparing retips of MM carts with MC carts is

like comparing apples with pears. By MC carts the cantilever/stylus

combo is glued in the called ''joint pipe'' . Usually aluminum tube.

The joint pipe can be also called the moving part of the MC cart.

This part consist of cantilever /stylus and coils and is connected

with the generator by tension wire. The ''rubber ring'' or the

suspension is fastened on the generator . Aka behind the moving

part. There is not much difference between boron cantilevers and

all those variations (copies) of shibata stylus shape. Because of

the patent issues those have different names. In my metaphoric

description they look as one egg to the other. One can hardly

see any difference . Considering the fact that those cantilever/

styli combos are provided by the same producer(s) to the

retippers as well the (cart) producers it is not reasonable to

assume different ''animals''. I retipped just one of my MM

carts. When I have seen how this is done I have never again

retipped any of my MM carts. The new cantilever is glued on

the restant or cut off old cantilever. Besides those MM carts

with tension wire can't be fixed by any retipper. Not to mention

the suspension by such carts. I have had many disputes with

you about those ''details''. I think that I have more experience

then you in this ,uh, ''field''.

We assume that  the ''age limit'' of an MC stylus is, say, 1000-

1500 hours. From this premise one can deduce that either

retip or disposing of is the consequence. Selling in between only

moves the problem to someone else. The dilemma than is either

retip of stylus only, retip with cantilever/stylus combo or refurbishing

by the manufacturer. ''Refurbishing'' is not an clear proposition.

What this means is the exchanging of the whole generator with

stylus/cantilever part. One can imagine that generators are produced

in series and used for different models or bodies. Except Van den

Hul I am not aware of any other producer who does real retips.

However ''our retip fear'' is curious considering the fact that this

repair does list harm in comparison with suspension and coils.

The so called ''moving parts'' are stylus, cantilever and coils+

the joint pipe (aluminum tube) on which those parts are fastened

+ tension wire which connects the generator with the moving

part(s). One can state that retippers get the same cantilever/styli

combos as manufacturers. This however is not the case with

''suspension'' nor coils. This imply that intentions of the designer

can't be realized by an retipper. EMT illustrate, for example,

how complex suspension is. They were not able to improve

their suspension for more than 30 years.