Replacing driver screws with brass screws


There was some discussion about this on Millercarbon's thread about the Moab speakers, and I wanted to pursue the subject further without interfering with his thread.
As I stated there, I have heard about this practice for quite a few years, but never tried it because it seemed like one of those lunatic fringe ideas; and even though I actually really enjoy trying tweaks, and have found many of them effective, I just was not prepared for what this one did for the music coming out of my speakers. 
Specifically, it improved the detail in ambient trails, focus in general, complex harmonics in voices and stringed instruments, and instrumental separation. It is not subtle, and it is immediately noticeable.
So, I am curious to know how many of you out there have tried this, and what your experience has been.
Thanks, John  
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cd318,
What are you talking about? Who said anything about second guessing the speaker manufacturer? It's just a tweak, and it works. There is no way that it is going to "ruin" speakers unless it is not done with reasonable care which is easy. I did 32 screws in about 30 minutes.
You're getting way too excited. 
thecarpathian,
I agree with you...partially.If you have tried it and have an opinion yay or nay, let's hear it. If you haven't, and you still have an uninformed "opinion", you are a bore.  
cd318,
Amusing post. What does it really matter who thinks what when it is relatively simple to just try it yourself and see what YOU think?
Before even considering the efficacy of wood in this application, I wonder if anyone thinks that it's possible to make screws of wood; any species of wood. 
Hi Mapman,
That is the reason that I was so surprised at the difference. I tighten my drivers on a regular basis, and had just done so 2 weeks ago, so they were tight before I changed to the brass.
millercarbon,
Maybe I'll bite the bullet and try that tape. I saw it online, but where do you get it from?
Hi Ricki,
Can I assume that you're speaking about Lenehan? You mentioned them the other day and a light went on. I remember well when his first tiny, perfectionist monitor came out. It was beautiful and I actually considered buying a pair. I went back to the site for the first time in forever the other day to see that he now has two larger models. They must be really something to hear! They're beautiful too.
There is a man who really attends to all of the details! 
Oh gee jetter!...you found me out! Whoever thought that my seemingly innocent thread about brass screws would finally uncover my desperate need for your attention!
I’m so embarrased.
By the way, you oughta try it. It works. And better minds than yours (I’m not one of them) think so too.
Millercarbon,
Yes, all small things matter, and some matter a lot. I am now going to experiment with gasket material. I looked up the material that you are using...ouch! Pretty expensive.
georgehifi,
Congrats! I’m so glad that you posted what you did and once again proved how much you don’t know. Appropriate that you should find common ground with kenjit, the biggest troll on audiogon. 
Thanks squeak. I read those threads just now. I guess as expected, some believers, some doubters. Very surprised to see Peter from PBN saying it could make no difference. He's a smart guy, but he's dead wrong in this case. 
tobor007,
No, are you? There are many useful improvements that speaker companies don't include with their speakers for reasons like cost, and aesthetics.
djones51,
The idea is far from new. Its been done for quite a few years. Maybe you should consider it. I paid 10 bucks for 100 screws. Not much of a financial risk. And I wouldn't worry about the "men in straight jackets"...they wouldn't be able to grab you.
Agreed. And how often do we send speakers in for warranty repair rather than a part of a speaker? 
I have been one of Tom’s customer’s for well over 10 years, and yes jetter, he is one of the "better minds" that I was referring to. Starsound Technologies...look them up.
Well, there’s three choices: try it, talk about it, or just forget about it. All valid.
Ricki,
I actually should have known that it would be controversial, but that wasn't the intent. It was just one of those things that I had been meaning to try for quite a few years, and I was excited to share the unexpected positive results. 

I'm certainly not qualified to rule out wood or any other metal. If I hadn't read about brass years ago, I would never have considered it.
I do wonder about wood screws though...wouldn't they be very fragile and hard to manufacture?
cd318,
"Who in their right mind would consider trying this out on a pair of Harbeths, Revels, Tannoys, Wilson’s etc?"
Are you really serious? It's just a screw! You can change them, and change them back if you don't like it.

As far as you're concerned nonoise, if you think that everything audible is measurable, you're the silly one, and so is the jollygreengoofball.
Not at all. He asked if I had measured it, and you apparently support the idea by pasting his quote. Pretty plain to see.
nonoise,
I did indeed misunderstand your response upon carefully reading it again, and I do owe you an apology. I am sorry, and I do apologize to you.