it really doesn't get any better then the duntech...you'll need room and a good back. a classic. |
I've heard both, and think they're both terrific speakers. Note that the Duntechs, while nominally of reasonable sensitivity, really need an amp that can control their woofers, otherwise they can sound a little slow and congested in the bass. I think your amp should work with them, but if there is a way to bring your amp to your friend's and try it with them that would be something I'd highly recommend. The Grand Veenas are probably a bit more transparent and clean-sounding, but in my listening to them I felt they were better with smaller scale ensemble music (jazz, chamber groups, etc.) than with full scale orchestral music. The Duntechs have a much bigger soundstage and overall bigger sound, which suits them for full scale symphonic works. Duntechs probably have better dynamic capabilities in the large scale dynamics; Grand Veena's might be just a little better in smaller scale dynamics due to their transparency, but neither speaker is a slouch there. Both are superbly musical in that they sound like the music you're playing, not an analytical tool. I could live happily with either, but in a room of your size I would probably opt for the Duntechs because I like the house sound, I like large-scale symphonic music and you've got the room for them. |
I used to own Sovereigns as well as the later Black Knights. I love the Grand Veenas, especially their Murata supertweeter. You will not hear the extended top end that this driver gives to them on the Duntechs. I would give two warnings about the Sovereigns given their age-one check the surrounds and two, better parts are now available in the crossover. Finally, get a powerful amp for the Sovereigns. They are not efficient. Oh, an one final thought-their designer did not think they needed to be isolated from the floor given their 350 pound each weight. He was wrong. |
In 2 week,I will get Duntech serie Sovereign 2001.Please sugguest my system.
Pre-Audio Research Reference 3
Power Amp-MC 1201
CD Player CEC 51XR
Speaker-Duntech serie Sovereign 2001
Power Cord -WW Gold Electra 4 cords.
Interconnect - WW Platimun XLR 2 Pairs.
Speaker Cable - Fim Gold
Do you think about them.Please suggest me for nuetaul sound,Sound Stage. |
Wasitpon, what is the MC 1201 amp? I don't know much of your equipment but do know that the Sovereigns take power. |
Are the Grand Veenas natural on vocals, not buzzy or mechanical or (please I hope nobody is offended by this) Wilson-like? Thank you. |
For Wasitpon, since you have the amp and will be getting the Sovereigns, might as well try the combination before making any decisions. They do like a lot of power; my dealer sold a lot of them with Rowland 7 monoblocks, ARC M300s and Krell KMA 200s and KRS, back in the day. The key is having enough control in the bass to handle the woofers, otherwise the sound can get a little muddy and slow. |
Rgs92, thankfully the Grand Veenas sound nothing like Wilsons. They have a very real soundstage and very real on vocals. I have no idea why you would ask about buzzing. |
Hi,Tbg
MC 1201 is momo block 1,200 watt/each. |
Hi,Rcprince
The key is having enough control in the bass to handle the woofers, otherwise the sound can get a little muddy and slow.
How can to control and reduce a little muddy and slow.
Thank you
Pon |
Wasitpon, they will work.
Another matter, is the use of feet or stands under the Sovereigns. Dunlevy never recommended the use of feet and I never did. They would have to be very substantial feet as each Sovereign weighs 350 pounds. I do suspect that they would benefit from the use of StillPoints component stands that I use under my Tidals. |
Wasitpon: I agree with Tbg, 1200 watts from your amps should work fine.
Make sure you're sitting at least 10 feet from them to get the best integration of the drivers. |
Tbg, thanks. My old Wilson WP6s made some vocals (especially on lesser recordings) actually sound like they had a buzzing overtone. I heard this same affect sometimes in some Wilson demos. I really hear this, but maybe it's just me. |
Hi,Tbg,Rcprince
Thank you for your informations!
Please sugest me about how far?
Speaker to speaker and Toll-in?
Speaker to back wall?
Speaker to siting person.?
PS.I feel excited for coming Sovereigns
Thank you
Pon |
Wasitpon, if I recall correctly, John Dunlevy wanted no toe in. He was wrong as I recall. The speaker's drivers are in a curve to have the voice coils in the same line. I always found toe in improved the sound stage.
I would think a minimum of ten feet from both speakers would be minimum. I once heard them at CES in Macormick Place in Chicago in a 50' by 30' by 18' reinforced concrete room where we listened about 25' from them. I never heard them any better.
Measure the distance from between the woofers, which I think is where the tweeter is. Multiply by 1.65 and make that the distance to the side walls from the center of the speakers front panel. Multiply that distance by 1.65 and that is the distance from the front of the speakers to the back wall. Remember that if you use feet under them, you have to redo these calculations. |
็ Hi,Tbg
Thank you for good information.
Today I get Duntech Sovereign 2001.It is good sound stage and so sweet.I like them,I am so relax.
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