recommend PRAT Integrated amplifiers (not Naim)


what are some modern integrated amps in the 5-10k range that offer a heavy dose of PRAT

not seeking anything Naim

for some frame of reference, was recently recommended Rega Aethos and Hegel H590...neither had the PRAT of my NAD C298 power amp (which is not an ntegrated and had some harshness to it)

please and thanks

Is the Yamaha A-S3200 or Bryston B135 known for PRAT?  Simaudio maybe?

 

 

 

 

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I can’t even repeat here the blasphemy AI delivered when I asked if fuses are directional. What audiophile did the training there? Look it up! Inquiring minds want to know. This place could become very boring if this keeps up. 😬

I specifically asked AI the question and in addition to Naim (#1), Rega and Musical Fidelity both came up near the top as amps that users commonly associate with PRAT. So that. It also pointed out that PRAT is a subjective thing. Smarty pants! If pRAT is where it’s at then Naim is the bomb apparently. So why rule that one out?Also, who are we to argue when a computer objectively settles the score regarding subjective decision making?

Then again, PRAT sounds like a very British kind of thing.  So any surprise traditionally British companies do particularly well there? Way to go AI!

I would definitely not rule out good modern Class D amps in general. Atmasphere is a good example. I heard those then the Atmasphere tube amps immediately after and they were way more similar than different. I’d choose the Class Ds but others will always want tubes

I am a big Class D fan especially in recent years and find it very hard to justify buying anything else. PRAT is not an issue there for me. I think the term originated in the last century in regards to turntables. It’s a totally different day and age these days. Digital rules. Where’s the PRAT? Must it be artificially supplied somehow?

I don’t think generally there is denial of what people hear. Just ignore those individuals if so but don’t throw out the baby with the bath water.  More that everyone hears and thinks differently and personal opinions alone may have value but are not a substitute for hard data. Nor is hard data alone enough for everyone to make a well informed decision. That’s the reality of it.

My recommendation is to try and learn from people who take their science and engineering seriously.  Ridiculing science and engineering is a pretty pointless exercise in a hobby that would not even exist without science and technology. 

PRAT is a real thing. It’s just a subjective real thing. If you care about it and it helps then fine. If not fine as well. It’s the old different strokes story. Whether one cares or not will likely lead one down radically different paths. FBOFW. Part of the fun is to just try things because you want to, not necessarily because there is any robust science applied in the decision making process. It’s a hobby and hobbies are fun. To each their own.

I’ll reiterate my Deja Vu Audio recommendation. They should be called house of PRAT because that is what makes them unique as a result of their strong retro focus and very good at getting toes tapping in a traditional manner effectively at various price points.  I’ve heard their wares and I am a fan.

 

Deja Vu audio sells Synthesis and they are all about tube gear with PRAT. You can’t go wrong talking to those folks most likely.