"New" Tannoy System 12s


I just bought a used pair of System 12 Mk. 1s.

I have 3 burning questions:

1. Does anyone know where I could find a manual?

2. Also, apparently I need help in how to bi-wire these guys.

3. My amp (really a surround sound receiver) is rated at 110 watts RMS/channel. Some folks have told me that I will not enjoy a balanced frequency response until I invest in a more powerful amp (250-400 watt). Their contention is that my puny amp will have issues moving that big heavy magnet, and the low end will suffer as a result. Any thoughts on this theory?

Thanks (in advance) for all comments!!
edavis68

Showing 3 responses by islandmandan

I don't know about your particular model, but most Tannoy DC drivers are at least rated at 90db sensitvity. My 1975 vintage 12" HPD's (though they are in custom cabs with custom crossovers), are driven beautifully by a VAC EL 34 tube amp at 35 Wpc. Even my Sophia Electric Baby amp, at 10Wpc, plays very nicely, at fairly high volume.

For tons of info and support, go to Hans Hilberink's Tannoy site(just Google it)

Enjoy,
Dan
Edavis,I too listen to much symphonic music, Mahler being a particular favoite. My HPD 315's (12" Dual Concentric), in their nearly 2" thick, 150 liter, 200lb. custom cabinets, reproduce low bass (tympani thwacks, bass drum), very well, to the point of startling me on a fairly regular basis. I started my Tannoy project a couple of years ago to prove to myself just how good 12" Duals could be, if the cabinets and crossovers are optimized. This has succeded beyond my expectations, I am set for life, as regards speakers. Besides the two tube amps, I now use a recently purchased Plinius SA 100 MKIII (100Wpc), and it is a wonderful match for the Tannoys, especially in pure class A. I have found it is the current delivery capacity that is important, more so than the available wattage.

I think a Plinius would mate well with your speakers. I got mine here on A'gon for $1200. I daresay you would be pleased with the combination.

Best regards,
Dan
Hello,

If you are referring to Frank Wyatt's website, (the link didn't work) yes, the enclosures built for Dan for 12" Tannoys, that would them, or me. I love these speakers unreservedly. They replaced a very good pair of Dynaudio Contour 5.4's, that I thought I would live with 'till the bitter end, but after owning (from 1970-1988) 12" Monitor Golds in homemade plywood cabinets, which were underdamped, and not having the quality of ancillary equipment that I have now, I felt I had unfinished business with Tannoy. So, I sold the Dyns, bought some drivers on Ebay UK, got the cabs built, lucked into a perfect crossover design made for me by an electrical engineer (also a Tannoy enthusiast).

I built the crossovers using Mundorf S-I-O caps, Dueland resistors, and Alpha Core 12 guage inductors, DH Labs silver hook-up wire to connect it all together.

These speakers continue to astound me, as the spiders on the new cones loosen up (I had new cones converted to the "hard edge" surrounds by Roger of Lockwood Audio in the UK). So the bass extension just keeps getting better. Some friends measured the in-room response, which was surprisingly flat from 20-20KHz.

So, I love 'em, and here they will stay as long as I do.

By the way, how did you know about Frank Wyatt's site? Have you had dealings with Frank? He did a fine job for me, and was great to deal with, a really nice guy.

Hope to hear back from you,
Regards,
Dan