PS Audio DL III DAC with Arcam DV78? Should I?

As Paul McGowan was the "P" and Stan Warren was the "S" in PS Audio,that says alot about his talents I'm sure.Thanks for the tip.I always wanted to try that Dac myself....

Hi2chnlben,
I am also trying to buy the DAC III Stage IV from Cullen directly.
I am interested in your previous post about a no-frills objective review.
thanks in advance

I just ordered my Cullen Stage IV DL3 on Friday and I will have it breaking in next week. I really couldn't hear much improvement with the stock DL3 over my Rotel RDV-1093, but the Rotel is a different animal than any of the other Rotel CD players. Their flagship DVD/CD player, it is rated at less than 0.002 WOW/Flutter. I was disappointed because I had expected more from the stock DL3. The fact that I did hear minor improvements (it did seem to open up the soundstage a bit and perhaps slightly improve overall clarity) led me to order a new modded unit directly from Cullen.

The reviews and feedback claim that the Stage IV upgrade is not a subtle improvement in almost the entire frequency range. I will be disappointed if I only hear minor differences, like I do with cable upgrades. I hate ordering one without hearing it first, but I have been “sucked-in” with all the feedback.

If you’re still looking next month, I will have been able to scrutinize the unit after it breaks in. If you email me, I’ll give you a no-frills objective review. Unless you can pick up a stock unit for $700 or less, your best bet is to purchase a new unit with upgrades directly from Cullen and receive $290.00 off list.

I'll add yet another recommendation for s Cullen modded PS Audio DL III (stage 3 in my case). I have never heard a stock DL III, and bought mine directly from Rick after listening to a stage 3 modded DL III @ a get together (where it was compared against a modded DAC1 & a Bel Canto DAC3). The general consensus was favorable to the Cullen DL III. I have been floored by what I have been hearing since I got it--and it's not even close to being burned-in yet (maybe only 40 hrs on it). This is one purchase I do not regret...

Can't read the above without weighing in as well. My system is Proac 2.5's, Conrad Johnson Premiere 14 pre, and McCormack DNA1 Deluxe modded, with Kimber Select wire, throughout.
I use a Denon 2930CI via a Monarchy DIP to my DL III. First, the Monarchy makes a very big difference. In my system, since installing the DL III, for the first time since I have been an audiophile, I hear distinctly different music from every CD I have,instead of year after year of digital sound that overlaid every CD with a common shade of "tint" or artifactual coloration.

I enjoy my stock unit so much, I am afraid of hearing one of Rick Cullen's modded units. (-:.....again, IN MY SYSTEM.

Good luck with your decision, John

The DL III is a truly wonderful unit, especially for the money. I have considered having Cullen do mods to my stock unit, but it is already so great that I am holding off for awhile. Sometimes I just can't believe how good Redbook CDs can sound, given the right recording. Also, there is a 30 day money back guarantee from PS Audio and sometimes they have demos or 30 day return units for less, still with full warranty. Sorry I can't tell you if it will sound better than the Arcam, only you will know.

The stock DL III is very good by itself. If budget is a concern, just getting a stock unit is more than enough.

Good luck.

I moved from a DV78 to a DV29 a year ago and am very pleased with the improvement in both audio and video. You can probably find a DV137 or DV29 (or maybe even a DV139) for great prices.

If you can afford $1700, talk with Rick Cullen of cullencircuits.com. His Stage 4 DL III is rather unbelievable. I've owned many DACs, but I feel there is no comparison to this one unless you get into high four figures and even then I'm not so sure. Cullen is not a typical mod guy -- he's part of the brains behind PS Audio.

I've bought a lot of equipment over the years and, truthfully, I've had to question much of it as to value and effectiveness. Not this piece. It is one of a handful of standouts I've had in the last forty years of enjoying this hobby.