Thanks jperry....what a nice system! If someone were thinking of getting a pair of Proacs, what would be the best way to go....D30R or D48R? I wonder what the sonic differences would be? Also, the D48R is the newer version of the D40R correct?
Just curious as to room size limitations for the D48r? It doesn’t look like a huge speaker, but I wonder if they will work well in a medium size room. Any insight would be appreciated.
I have always liked them. Got to meet Stewart Tyler many years ago and had a great talk. His speakers to me always were known for captivating midrange and just disappearing. I always felt the bass wasn't big no mater what size speaker they had.
There are plenty of great solid state amps these days. The thing is that the cost of Proacs aren't in the ridiculous range, so why use a 15k amp with them? I heard them with a pair of Jadis many years ago that I was looking into getting and it was awesome. I used my Studio Towers with an Ayre AX7e for nearly a year. I almost didn't even bother changing speakers. That was a really nice sound to say the least.
Yes, I saw his system. I believe he sold them. The Proacs are known for their natural sound and outstanding midrange. As you have mentioned and based on my experience, bass is not their strongest quality. Perhaps the d40r and new d48r have that bass. I've read that older model Proacs had good bass, albeit lower sensitivity. Regards........
Yes, I have read that review about ProAc 20R as the Baroque loudspeaker. But there was another audiogoner who was trying to sell his D30R because it seemed to lack the bass. Take a aook at erikminer's system. He has those speakers. The D48R seem to have 4 ohm nominal impedance Vs 8 ohms that I would prefer, my system having a passive preamp.
Perhaps the best midrange I've ever heard with the utmost refinement. There is a review on line that refers to the 20r as the Baroque speaker. I'll try and locate it for you. I only sold mine because I was looking for more well defined bass and an ability to unravel complex passages as I sometimes listen to large scale classical and fusion. As they say, you can't have it all unless you're willing to spend major bucks. I've since gained more drive and speed with my Tannoys, but have lost out on that emotional Proac midrange. It seems I've unfinished business with Proacs. I most likely will get a pair of Response d2 in the future with a tube integrated. The sweet spot seems to be the Proac d30r as it has a different driver than the 20r. Carbon fiber as opposed to glass fiber. More well defined bass. There is just something about the Proacs that has me hooked. We'll see. Regards.........
And how would you describe the ProAc sound? In my room, with precise placement, my Quads's sound stage starts about 2-3 feet behind the speaker front face. And the sound stage is pretty wide, since I moved them 65" from the back wall and 36" from side walls, with 9 feet between the tweeters. If I change the speakers, I do not want to loose this character in the sound that Quads currently provides. I am looking for more refinement in treble and bass extension.
Not at all milpai.....Pass as already mentioned and Plinius come to mind as does the Primare that Pete mentioned. Some like Naim as well. I used a Rega Elex-r with my Proac d20r with good success in a small room. Keep us posted. Regards.......
that's interesting that you can get that speaker driving the way it can with only 33 watts. I know it's only a measurement, however I ended up getting a larger Quick and AR amp as they just opened up big time with more current and higher power in general. I have heard the D2 I believe it is, with a SET amp that was low watts and it was awesome. The mids and highs just sang. I couldn't live with it as I need full sound, but there are some great amps out there now.
I have heard the Sugden Masterclass IA-4 Integrated Amplifier with my Proac D-40r speakers (very similar to your D-48 speakers) and was very impressed with the results. It is in your price range new, with a minor discount, and is a real consideration if you are looking for an integrated amplifier. 33 wpc of pure class A listening pleasure.
I have had many pairs of Proacs since the early 90's. They do love tube gear. I ran AR and Quicksilver much of the time. If you want something different, Primare is a GREAT match also. For some reason, they have synergy. Worth a listen if you are able to.
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