Preamp question - Cary Clone


I'm thinking about getting back in after retirement.

My current setup is the Vandersteen 2Ce's (mid 90's), McCormack 0.5, reworked by McCormack, (mid-2000's) and a Marantz CD player.  The linestage is one that I designed and built myself. It essentially is a high input Z and low output Z, zero gain.  It's the weakest link in the system, so I thought I'd start with that. 

I have no idea where I'll end up with the system, but streaming and DAC's will be all new to me.  At this point, I'm not looking to replace the speakers and amp until I've a different preamp and streaming capability.  I like the tube preamp sound, but I'm not married to it.  In my early search for a preamp, I ran across this Cary clone.  Being not sure about the direction I'll take, I'm curious if anyone has experience with one of these, and would it be an inexpensive way to start to put the system together.  It's inexpensive enough, but I'm not that interested in something not better than what I have. Here's a link to one of those. 

HiFi Remote Control 12AU7/ECC82 Tube Preamplifier Refer US CARY-SLP90 Circuit | eBay

scooterbug

Considering the fine amp and speakers you have, you deserve better than bottom shelf gear with what are very likely counterfeit parts. I say look at a real pre from a company that's a known entity. It never pays to buy cheap.

Thanks, you are probably right.  In the long run I'll probably save money a poor experience.  Since I'm three hours away from any decent retail high end dealers, can you make some suggestions?

 

Road Trip!

 

Relax, enjoy the drive. You don't have to be back for work. Take your time, enjoy the process... don't be in a hurry. I know lots of retired folks. The rule of thumb is it takes five years to make the adjustment... it is one of changing from achieving objectives to enjoying the process and innate passions (like audio). 

Hello,

I have this Cary SLP90 Clone tube preamp.  I did eventually get it to sound very good after some minor work: replacement of the 3.3uf 400v caps with mundorf aluminum oil caps which are great value priced, and premium 12au7 tubes.

The online reviews on this preamp as stock are over the top exaggerated in my opinion when compared to my custom tube preamp but I never expected it to be that good anyway. Stock the soundstage is very big, and the mid-range is a touch opaque. Replacement with the I expensive mundorf Alu. Oil resolved the opaque issue. Also it took a long time to burn in and sounded harsh prior to getting lots of hours with the Mundorf caps. Definitely highly recommended as a high value proposition tube Preamp! Go for it. The caps are not expensive and it's easy enough to swap out yourself if you can solder. A few of the small white Vishay caps were cold soldered so I just added more solder all good. Sounds very good in my secondary system. Excellent high value purchase I do not regret.

I have found my Rogue RP-7 (12AU7 tubes) preamp to be superb.  I started with an RP-1 but wanted to go balanced and found that the RP-7 was indeed a marked upgrade in sound quality.

The term "Clone" infers two products that are close to being identical.  You should be calling it what it actually is.  A knock off of the Cary product.  A Rolex knock off will tell time, but that doesn't make it a Rolex. Generally in life, you get what you pay for. IMHO.  Cheers.

I'd also check out the two preamps from Quicksilver (available in remote or non-remote versions). These are affordable, sound fantastic (I've owned the non-remote version for 12 years), and don't come with cold solder joints that require you to find and repair!

Furthermore,I see from scooterbug considering now considering a new preamp. I've had many preamps in my system and most were expensive disappointments so I don't necessarily agree that buying a big name preamp will be a guarantee. 

Inherently, being an Audiophile already means you probably will be disappointed with some gear from a statistical stand point. But I do agree that if you have a good brick & mortor vendor you can bring your preamp in to compare and then take the finalist home for demo is the lowest risk way to go as long as you can still return it if not happy. Regardless, happy hunting!

Well the Cary, as is the case with many designs, is a clone of sorts of earlier designs.