Power Uber Alles ?


Hi Gang,
Another thread that is about to go sideways brought up an interesting question: Is power alone an important quality indicator for you?

Of course, they're nice to have, but have you experienced that bigger amps sound better, or is the overall quality of the amp more important.
Assume you have enough power for a modest living room. If a listener was happy with a particular 100 Watt amplifier, would you suggest they find more power?

Please include experience, speakers, and size of listening area while replying!

Also, for a 12' x 18' living room with 86 dB speakers, what range of power do you think you would personally be happy with?
erik_squires

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Aber allies speak english its america dude.

Culture is international. Get some.

OK, I was going to let this go, but I can’t. There is so much wrong here.

1. It’s not America, it’s a web site. Where do you think I am? Do you think the Internet stops at the borders?

2. If it was America I’d have the right to freedom of speech and freedom of expression. I’ll speak whatever language I want to in America because it is a constitutional right to and no, you have no right at all to insist on that in person or here.

3. Read a book. While "uber alles" is not an English word it IS in most English dictionaries because it is commonly used in English writing. Living languages thrive on appropriating and introducing new words and new ideas from other cultures and languages.

4. Same goes for music. Music thrives on international connections, and dies or stagnates when it becomes inbred. You probably have no idea where music you love even comes from.

5. Wrong version of "its." You used the possessive form. You should have written "it’s" which is a contraction.

6. For 3 and 5, get a dictionary.

As an American, as a lover of culture, and as a supporter of this website your statement is profoundly wrong.

E
Elizabeth, so you place Class A Uber Alles? I'm not trolling you, I'm genuinely curious.

In your mind, class A trumps power? (assuming power was adequate).

Best,
E
I'll give another example.  I like certain capacitors more than others. Very personal. However there used to be this kind of belief that equivalent series resistance (ESR) or dissipation factor were the causes.

Turns out, that did not really work out. Whatever it is I like about caps, it's not in those two numbers. I think a lot of capacitor rollers and manufacturers have found the same to be true. The audible quality is not in those two figures.

I like what I like, and I don't have a reason for it. :) I fully respect that, but maybe someday this will change.
Hey @islandmandan :

Thanks for your kind words, but I am honestly not testing anyone!

Often what happens is that another thread will tickle my thoughts on a subject, and I get genuinely curious about my fellow A'goner's personal experiences.

Like take this one. I have a preference, and even though I could the math here and there, that doesn't mean it correlates with user experience.
More than anything, I like to come to A'gon to figure out how my fellow audiophiles experience music, and the gear that plays it, and in the realm of personal experience, this is irrefutable, even when it goes against my own prejudices, and that's where I am forced to learn new things.

I hope I also offer a modest service by asking questions in ways that can be answered productively, even when we disagree. I try to come to a shared understanding of personal tastes vs. technical attribution. Like say, distortion. We can measure it, but the question of what we'll buy or like listening to is not a number, and to me this distance, between TIM or THD and value and personal pleasure is super interesting to me.

Best,
E