Please help with the cable burner

Hi omsed.With all my respect I disagree 100% with you regarding this issue.If you don't believe in this break in phenomum in cables is only your point of view against a widespread audiophile community that believe and test and bear it.In my particular case I' m a violinmaker, violin.player and an audiophile guy. I can hear the changements in sound percormances in a cable during the time.So for me is out of question the existance of break in in cables.Good for you that you don't believe in it!I guess you'll have less complications when setting up audio systems.Cbeers!Raf

Spyders of drivers break in with repeated movement. Surrounds do also. You can hear both.

Running signal does not change cables. They do not break in. If you have good ears you would be able to tell a broken-in woofer from a non-broken in if you were blindfolded. You would never be able to identify the broken in cables. Different design cables, sure, some are so easily identified many of us could do it very reliably blindfolded. Broken in cables, you are kidding yourself, and you likely don't want to test that to have to admit that. Funny, members of the the audiophile community consider it "making their bones" to say they hear differences, even if they are not there. Every notice, nobody dares say "I heard no difference" when others in the room say they do.

Do you doubt that cables (or any component) generally sound better after they have been used? The phenomenon of break in is well-accepted by the audiophile community. If you don't hear any difference, that's just your personal experience.

To answer the poster, the time it takes for burning is the time that you believe. If you expect great results in a minute you will hear them. If you expect them in an hour you will hear them. If you feel it will take ten days it will take 10 days. These types of devices and accessories that proliferate do so because of expectations: the power of suggestion and the placebo effect.

Are there differences in cables? Absolutely. Are there differences due to break in? How could there be? The signal is an AC signal....that means no "direction of flow", electrons buzz back and forth in their orbits around the nuclei, with no net positive charge, no net negative charge. So no "forming" of dielectric is possible.

Expectations. Filtering them out, keeping them from affecting comparisons, can be very difficult.

Who's to say that cable burners don't hasten the burn-in process as advertised? On the other hand, there's probably no guarantee that such a device won't damage the cable. For those in a hurry you can always plug the cable into an air conditioner for a few days and avoid the risk.

Hi Rja.I made a mistake.Sorry for that.Raf

Hey Raf, Just felt like quoting a very old Neil Young song from Buffalo Springfield days. Wasn't directed at you.

Yes, audio is full of humor, I love watching "con-man" movies, such as "The Sting" and the George C. Scott movie "The Flim-Flam Man". But in audio, there is a never ending line of these characters, each with their own different story of how they have "invented" superior cable geometry and "discovered" new physics in the field. More entertaining than most movies.

Priceless.

Dear fellows. I feel a very lucky man.Someones takes seriously my experiences in hi end audio,others laught at and smile, so what a big joy I experience at this very moment.Everybody is happy!!!
Rja I dont make any rules, just tell, as you do, what I think.Have a nice day!Cheers.Raf

...it's fun to learn high end audio. It's definitely full of humor.

You make the rules, you say what's fair. It's so fun to to have you there.

Wow. So "cables acquire a memory". Amazing that high end audio is smarter than all scientists at all research institutions involved with signal transmission over 100 years. How did analog communications by wire ever survive for those 100 years? How did we ever land on the moon?

I am really impressed with high end audio and proud to be in the hobby, so much physics has been discovered and rewritten by our little industry. Such insight, such understanding, so much genius level thinking.

Buy an established product.

Hi Hungmx.
I think the best burning method is patience.Just plug the cables in your system and wait till they`ll begin sorting out the best qualities.Because cables acquire a memory according to the use and current they are submitted to, so which best manner to burn your cable following the neccesities of your components??At least that`s my point of view and for what I see I`m not the only one.Cheers.Raf

This is a joke right?

Thank you for your comments.

@Timrhu: just bought from you some Kimber and Analysis Plus speaker cables :)

It looks as though the seller used the word "burner" literally. Be careful!

there's much slimpler way:
connect one end of cable onto hot slot of wall outlet and another end of cable onto newtral slot of wall outlet and your cable will burn.

Thank you very much for your recommendation. I hope to get some more opinions before plugging the cables.

@Rlwainwright: one single speaker cable has 4 connectors: red (No.1) to red (No. 2) and black (No.3) to black (No.4). Should I plug:

Red (No.1) to Red (of the burner);
Red (No.2) to Black (of the burner);
Black (No.3) to White;
Black (No.4) to Yellow?

I will have an technician metered the current and amps if possible.

Thank you again.

Might be OK who knows but I have concerns about safety.
I would definitely want a cover for that thing.

Ebay sells junk looks like you got one piece of junk!!

Is that UL tested? 8^)

David Elrod once told me: Don't use those things on my cables.

Nice point to point wiring. Gotta be a winner. No clue how to use it though. I just let my stuff burn naturally.

I wouldn't be using this if it was me. It almost looks like a DIY amplifier that didn't turn out right.

Also, I've been told by quite a few cable manufacturers that you shouldn't use a cable burner to burn in cable. They recommend good ol' music.

I have a separate little system in a corner in my spare bedroom that is for only burning in cable. You can find pretty nice stuff on Craigslist for less than what some of these cable cookers cost.

I agree with the above two posts.
If you take a look at this site and pictures you might get a better idea how to use it. Personally, I would be very cautious!
http://www.audioexcellenceaz.com/products/audiodharma-cable-cooker-cable-conditioner/

Danger Will Robinson......danger.

#1, it looks like it is for speaker cables. #2, it looks very much homemade, and not to a high standard. I'd be scared sh!tless using it.

Nonetheless, I *think* this is how to use it: Connect one leg of your speaker cable between the white and red terminals and the other leg between the yellow and black terminals. Use the potentiometer labeled "Amps" to dial in how much current is passed thru the cables. Too much current could easily cause a house fire, I'd do this in my backyard away from any flammable materials....

Good luck!

-RW-