Please help me figure out what I need to do this. My head spins with tech talk..


I am considering a sim audio moon cd transport 260dt to replace my beloved CD player that just died.I have a Plinius 9200 integrated. What do I need to make this combo work? Do I need a DAC?I get that transports are different from players but I just want to make sense of all of this in a simple way. thanks!
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I can't find immediately the 260dt model you refer to, but I presume this is the 260D CD Transport with optional DAC.  As the name implies, this is something of a rare beast, in that the single box can be had either purely as a transport OR as a player (transport+DAC), thus obviating the need for a second box.

@abstract Please just be aware that Audiogon members include manufacturers and retail dealers who are free to post in threads without identifying themselves as such.  They are familiar to regular posters here.

You must have arrived at Sim Moon by some process of elimination.  They are a very good and reliable company, who will stand behind their products.  Another Canadian company with a similar reputation is Bryston, who also make a stand-alone single box CD player.  There are more still out there than you might imagine.  If you're only interested in Red Book CD, it eliminates one extra box and the vagaries of connecting the two boxes with a cable, at which point people will immediately tell you you need a better cable.

@abstract The yearly "advances" in DACs often involve more specmanship than real electronics.  For daily driving, how much better is a 2019 car over the same 2018 model?  Before purchasing the Bryston BCD-3, I eliminated the Hegel Mohican, leaving that new model of Primare as the chief competitor.  If you have more CDs than you know what to do with, are committed to Red Book, there are distinct advantages to "integrated" players.  The transport and the DAC both make a difference, as do their implementation.  Googling you can find specs on both the Bryston and the Primare, who used different manufacturers for transports (both good) and for chips in the DACs (both good).  Finally, both makers will have implemented them differently.  Supposedly, different chips have different sonic characteristics, but it ends up being much more complicated than that.

@abstract I wish I had had an opportunity to.  But Primare doesn't have a large dealer base, with nothing close at hand.  Also, their repair network seemed dependent on one individual.  Whereas I've had excellent support, above and beyond, for many years with Bryston.  I suspect the CD35 and the BCD-3 sound more alike than different.

And yes, I know what you mean.  It was those early DDD recordings done by Deutsche Gramophon of massed violins that sent me, ears bleeding, for a number of years into the arms of class A, single ended, triode tubes.  But not any more.

@abstract Please do report back after you get it.  I think you'll be the very first owner of that model who frequents this site.
Get it in the system with a signal coming out of it.  It will need time to settle and run in.
PRISMA adds some kind of Bluetooth/networking/whatever gizmo to the CD player.  The 35 comes with out without the PRISMA add-on.  Check Primare website for details.