Pass XA25 for my system


I have been a long-time lurker here, but never posted until now. I have learned a lot from reading other posts and I thought it would be nice to share details on my current system. Also wondering if anyone has thoughts on switching from Hegel to a Pass XA25 amp.

Current system:

  • Room: 14x19 living room with medium(ish) damping - couch, rug, bookshelves, plants etc.; however, no dedicated room treatments.
  • Sonicorbiter i9 optical Roon server upsampling to DSD128
  • Fiber to Sonore Opicalmodule Deluxe 2 (Sonore LPS with Mundorf Silver/Gold DC cable)
  • Sablon Ethernet 2020
  • Bricasti M3 DAC and Roon endpoint running exclusively via NDSD conversion (3x Isoacoustics Orea)
  • Audioquest Fire XLR cables
  • Linear Tube Audio Microzotl Level 2 preamp with Lundahl balanced transformer input, Ray Reserve and Gold Lion tubes.
  • Iconoclast Series 2 OCC RCA cables
  • Hegel H390 Integrated (using as amp with HT bypass)
  • Audioquest Robin Hood speaker cables
  • Dynaudio Heritage Special (Dynaudio Stand 6 with Isoacoustics Gaia feet) 
  • Power: AQ Niagara 1200, AQ tornado and Cardas power cables.

My system is relatively modest, but was carefully assembled and it sounds pretty great to me. After adding the Microzotl preamp and seeing the improvement, I am thinking of replacing the Hegel (I am not using the preamp or DAC functionality) and trying a new amp. Thinking of the Pass XA25 after reading great reviews and seeing other people matching it with both my speakers and preamp. To be clear, the Hegel has been great and is a good match for my speakers. Dynamics are great, clarity, detail and a very relaxed feel to the sound. It was maybe just a touch too “clean/thin” before the LTA preamp. That move added a little more body, better imaging and soundstaging so curious to see what the Class A XA25 might do to further improve on these areas. The LTA Microzotl also helped with lower level/volume listening allowing more detail and dynamics to come through. With the Hegel volume control, I had to turn things up quite a bit to get things sounding their best. I also tried the Bricasti as a preamp and that was slightly less preferable than using either the Hegel or LTA for volume control.

I am still slightly nervous moving away from the Class A/B sound I am familiar with. Maybe it will soften things a little too much and be a step backwards? I was also considering a slightly used Class A/B Audionet Amp. I have no doubt they make excellent amps but I also couldn’t find many people using that brand and even fewer using it with my preamp and speakers. Any thoughts on whether the Pass XA25 will soften dynamics and transients significantly relative to my Hegel? I found some info. at 6Moons comparing the XA25 to Kinki Class A/B monoblocks and the comments seemed positive albeit a little mixed and unclear.

sfpeloton

Hello @sfpeloton ,  Good Morning!  You do have a nice system and have paid a lot of attention to your digital front end!  I am a huge fan of Audionet!  I have owned the mono Amps, mono Max Amps and now the top dog Heisenbergs.  While the Heisenbergs are amazing, the Max amos give you most of the Audionet sound at a more reasonable price.  My friend owns the Humboldt integrated, which is also stunning, but I like the Max amps  better.  I have directly compared to Classe, Parasound Halo, Hegel and Pass and think the Audionet amps and preamps are special. To me, the other AB amps I have heard are dark, dull and uninspiring (and the Hegel is perhaps the best of these).  The Audionet gear is lightning fast, with super transients and dynamics, yet so resolving I call it the sparkle.  They are NOT over etched or too bright.  Listening is engaging and non fatiguing.  I run the Heisenbergs with their Stern preamp, and the Maxs with my Mola Mola Makua preamp w onboard Tambaqui.  The Mola Mola is a touch warmer, but still a wonderful match.  Audionet amplification with your tube pre should be stunning.  I know Bill at GTT has been sitting on a demo Audionet stereo Amp V2 that I have been tempted to get for my vacation home. Happy Holidays! Ken

+1 @zlone , I did not see your post prior to mine.  Yes the Audionet Pre G2 is amazing with their amps also.  I traded mine in when I got the Stern / Heisenbergs. My first taste of Audionet was their entry level Pre1 G3.  It blew away the Classe Pre I was using at the time, and opened my mind and ears to the sound I wanted.

Maybe the OP will go for your Audionet Stereo Amp1v2 and you can get the Max mono amps!!!  :)

I have not heard the Hegel to compare, but I do drive the Heritage Specials with a Pass XA25. I also own the same LTA pre (with rolled tubes). I have no issue driving the Dynaudios to listening levels that are satisfying to me, though I am not into listening at high volume levels.

I feel that the combination of the Pass and the LTA works extremely well. The LTA is not at all a classic sounding tube preamp, but is very dynamic and natural sounding, but not lush (like an older CJ for instance). The Pass is a little on the warm side and it pairs well with the LTA. 

Also, the HS speakers are a nominal 4 ohm load, so you are getting the additional power that the Pass can put into lower impedances. And as it has been measured when reviewed, the 25 watts even into 8 ohms is very much underrated to what the amp can actually do.

In my room, the setup has responded very well to every upgrade I have made, adding resolution, precise imaging, microdynamics, and open soundstage, along the way. Timbre has always been good, but got even better when I upgraded the LTA tubes this year.

Tons of choices as others have indicated,  but I’ve been very happy with this combination.

@fastfreight Yes, I am a converted Audionet fan now. I might go with the monos someday, but for now the Amp 1 has been great. Responding primarily to confirm your description of the Audionet sound:

The Audionet gear is lightning fast, with super transients and dynamics, yet so resolving I call it the sparkle.  They are NOT over etched or too bright.  Listening is engaging and non fatiguing.

This is so true. I refer to it as 'just right'. I hear GTT's room at Axpona this year and had similar comments. And yes, you can find a good deal on a demo Amp 1 on his site.

 

@cbrez - I ended up purchasing a used Gryphon 120 which does 240 watts into 4 ohms. It was at that moment that I realized the full potential of the Dynaudio Heritage Special speakers. They are fantastic speakers and I just feel they really open up when driven with more power. 

Part of my issue might be my room, however. It's a very large room with high ceilings, so I just might need more power because of the space... 

BTW - What tubes are you using with your LTA preamp? I know LTA is offering those new "Ray's Tubes" which I've been curious about... 

@sfpeloton - I guess room size would be an important consideration. How big is your listening space? 

@zlone - I've wondered about that Audionet amp you've got now! Can you share more about your impressions of it?