Pass Labs “House Sound” vs. McIntosh “House Sound”


I’m contemplating swapping out my McIntosh C2500 for a Pass Labs XP-20.  I’ve searched the forums for posts on the Pass Labs XP-20, being that it was released quite some time ago, I didn’t find too much referencing the sound characteristics.  Read plenty of reviews, but those, as we all know, are often full of audio journalistic color.  Any one able to comment on the Pass Labs “house sound”, per se?  Possibly what trade offs happen when migrating from McIntosh preamps.
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there are more Pass Labs sold than Ayre and Luxman combined so lots of people got bad ears.

I've never said people who buy Pass have bad ears, but I am not obligated to agree with their tastes, any more than anyone else should buy something because I happen to like it. 

The buyer's hearing, speakers and room should trump everything.  If you can't shrug off all the PR and punditry, your wallet and hobby will be a slave to popular opinion.

Best,
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I've personally never heard a benefit of fully balanced designs, I'm sorry.

Maybe there are some, but the technology has never attracted me to gear specifically because of it.
Shannere, I have never owned a Pass, nor an Ayre. I’ve never tried to steer anyone away from either of those brands, which is not the same as saying I don’t like some more than others, I do. Rather, I post amps which to my ears sound pretty different.

I’ve not heard Mc in a very very long time, and not for any period of time, unlike Pass, Luxman and Ayre, which I’ve been fortunate enough to audition for a few hours here and there.

It makes no difference to me if some one buys Pass or Mc, but generally speaking, I do recommend listeners in the price range try a triad:
  • Pass
  • Luxman
  • Ayre

I recommend these exactly because they sound significantly different from each other. I think listeners will immediately develop such a strong preference that nothing I could type would change their mind. especially if they listen with their own speakers, which they should.

In answering the OP’s question, I could not comment on Mc, and didn’t want to comment on Pass, but I felt if the OP listened across these three, he’d have a better feel for the house sound of Pass, and I’m always curious what people think and what they listen to with them.

If I actually tried to steer someone away from Pass it would read very different.

If Pass sounds the best, then no one should worry that listeners go any other way, but I do not believe in absolute truths, and that may annoy the Pass-is-Best camp. You will see my sincere apology to them in a future posting. Please wait for it with bated breath.




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From reading current and past Pass owners, the Pass amps tend to be very much speaker influene, possibly due to impedance and woofer control.

You should also listen to Ayre and Luxman.