PADIS vs Furutech fuses


I now have about 260 hours on my PADIS fuse and ready to some listening. The PADIS fuse appears to look exactly like the Furutech fuse. It has the same blue casing with the PF logo on one side. Actually, the only visible difference between the PADIS and Furutech is that the Furutech has “FURUTECH” printed on the opposite side. However, there are actually differences:

My very initial thoughts on the PADIS fuse (in the first few hours) was that the PADIS seemed somewhat dryer sounding than the Furutech. The PADIS did not have the typical “cold / wet /chimey” tones that fresh rhodium plated Furutech components generally have (I’ve tested Furutech rhodium fuses, power cord connectors, interconnect – they all initially contribute this cold/chime character).

I have often stated that Furutech rhodium is painful to burn in. I have burned in many Furutech fuses and it goes through several painful areas. There are days in Furutech rhodium burn-in where I would sit down to listen and the sound would just be so bright / harsh / hard-edged that I said “I can’t listen to this”. At that point, I would just walk away and let it continue to burn in. With the PADIS fuses, it never got that painful. I could hear the burn-in process changes, but it was always listenable. At the 180-200 hour mark, the PADIS did get very bright/hard-edged, but it was still somewhat listenable (I did not have to walk away). At 220 hours it was fully resolved.

Now, for the comparison. I will say that the PADIS is an excellent fuse. For the money, you really cannot beat it, unless you need a warm signature (in which case you need an Isoclean fuse). Both the PADIS and Furutech share the same essential sonic signature. However, there is definitely a difference. The PADIS sounds very good – do not get me wrong, it is an excellent fuse. However, the Furutech really did have an improvement. The tones on the Furutech were just a bit more pure and true sounding. The Furutech had a more “solid” sound to the audio. The Furutech had a bit more punch and meatiness to the bass / midbass. The PADIS, on the other hand, was a bit more loose in the highs, causing the high frequencies to be a bit more messy and rattling. This does cause the PADIS to sound a bit more dry. The PADIS also did not have quite the depth of soundstage when compared to the Furutech.

Now some people might sit down with me and say “I can’t hear a difference” or “your just splitting hairs”. I might be. The difference in sound is VERY subtle, but to me it makes a significant improvement. The differences could also be revealed when listening over a longer period (like 20-30 minutes). The music with the Furutech is just more engaging.

If you have very low resolution or warm equipment, it is possible that you would not hear the difference at all. However, on high resolution stuff, the Furutech could make that equipment “shine” just a little bit better. The PADIS is an excellent buy. For half the cost, you get a whole heck of a lot of performance (almost a no-brainer if you’re still running a stock fuse!). For those who want to bleed out the most amount of performance and resolution – the Furutech is worth the cost.

There are a few possible reasons I can think of that would cause the PADIS/Furutech difference:

- Furutech fuse state a special damping filler inside to reduce electrical resonance. I cannot find an reference to a damping filler for the PADIS fuses.  This could be why the PADIS sounds a bit more loose/dry/harsh in the highs

- Furutech does a Cryogenic treatment process. I cannot find any reference that the PADIS fuses get the same treatement.

- Rhodium plating. It is possible that the Furutech fuses are manufactured with a much thicker rhodium plating. I know Furutech likes a thick rhodium plating on their A/C connectors. The PADIS could have put a thin plating on their generic “PADIS” fuses. This could help explain why my burn-in process was not as painful.

Anyways, those are my findings. Maybe next year I’ll do a BLUE vs. Furutech analysis.

auxinput
I have a question about burn-in.  I'm an ex-musician, not an ex-electrician, so putting something together like Al's burn-in device is going to be outside my comfort zone.  Not to mention, I have a lot of different sized fuses in my system and if I would have to compute what size light bulb load I need for each fuse, well,,,,,,
So, if I just burn-in the fuses in the components, is leaving the component on (by itself) effective? Can a fuse be effectively burned-in by idling, or do I need to be playing music through the component?  Could it be that idling is (maybe) 50% as effective as playing music?
Personally, I don't like the idea of leaving my amps on 24/7 and speakers have to have throughput for anything to happen, but I feel everything else could be left on for a week or more to slowly burn the fuse in if that works.
Is burn-in accomplished by idling as good/half as good/nowhere near as good as burning in fuses by playing music through them?  Maybe different results for different types of components?

You do not need to play music to burn in fuses.  As long as the unit is powered up, A/C is being cycled through the fuses.
Toolbox, nearly all preamps, source components, and amplifiers that are biased in class A draw essentially the same amount of current and power all the time, as long as they are in an operating mode (as opposed to a standby mode). So whether or not music is being played will make no difference in the duration of whatever breakin effects may occur in the particular design.

There will presumably be some variation in that duration among different designs, though, depending on how much margin the designer has allowed between the current rating of the fuse and the actual amount of current the design puts through it.

It’s a different story, though, with power amplifiers or integrated amplifiers that do not operate in class A. In those cases fuses will be conducting significantly less current when idling than when playing music. And of course fuses in passive speakers will be conducting no current when not playing music.

Regards,
-- Al

Innocent question: if break in of cables is related to the dielectric materia, not the metal conductor, then why is break in for fuses necessary? You know, since there is no dielectric. Am I missing something? 

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+1 select-hifi! Debating the merits of various fuses is MADNESS! Ditto for power cords! Ouch! Who threw that rock!
select-hifi
... you are all discussing the effects of a tiny wire no thicker than a pubic hair, its like saying my pubic hair is better than your pubic hair
No, discussing fuses is not at all like discussing pubic hair. Not even remotely.
How many of these guys can stand out on the ledge without the ledge breaking off?

“Knowledge is what’s left after you subtract out all the stuff you forgot from school.” - old audiophile axiom


Are PADIS (or even Furutech) fuses even available anymore?

I cannot find them for sale except on a Greek website, which is suspicious for a product made in Germany as it should have more sellers available.