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Auxinput , have you actually listened to these cables in a system at all ? if not all of your comment’s are nothing more then assumptions .....i2s , you felt you had to correct a typo ? LoL Finally we weren’t using home theatre receiver’s and what have you for evaluating digital front ends . Stick with home theatre .... |
ahhh, ok I get what you're saying. And it's not "12S", it is "i2s". (not one two s). i2s is a way of transmitting raw 2-channel PCM data without having to encode it into an s/pdif data format. It basically skips that step. It is a prioprietary transfer method and the connections are different between manufactureres. Some manufacturers use HDMI cable to connect this, but it is NOT an HDMI interface. It only uses the cable to transmit a different type of signal. In this situation, I can totally see where you would like the Tartan better. It has two advantages here - it is made from pure copper (cheap copper, but still copper). The Wire World Platinum has two problems. 1 - it is pure silver (which will affect the sound). 2 - it uses DNA Helix configuration, which is 2 x 26awg twisted wires to transmit each HDMI data pin. This causes small timing problems because the two 26awg conductors are never going to be exactly the same length. It could affect data and waveform timing / rise time. The Tartan will definitely sound warmer because of these two characteristics. If you are looking for a better HDMI cable for i2s that shares the Tartan approach, try a Purist Audio Design HDMI. It uses much better copper - 24awg long grain copper conductors that are triple-shielded. |
Auxinput , could be , though Ive never tried any other generic HDMI cables against the Tartan brand and WireWorld , it turned out we preferred the Tartan having more body . As I went though changes of digital front ends the WireWorld Platinum Starlight was eventually sold by the time I purchased Rockna and now the AudioByte Vox stack he same Tartan HDMI cable will be used in the AudioByte streamer once its released on the market.However I do understand HDMI cables are licensed to manufacture by a handful of producers though maybe calling it 12s gets around licensing fees, could be , maybe , I don’t know . Could be just one of those things . |
You have to have really good eyes and ears to determine differences between HDMI cables because a lot of the time they are subtle. However, there are differences between HDMI cables. It can also be that your system is not able to reveal the differences. If you are running a warming sounding system it is likely that you will never be able to tell the differences in sound between HDMI cables. The same goes for the quality of the video display. |
I’m on my third brand of digital components utilizing 12s though my current server’s 12s output pin layout isn’t compatible with my new digital stack . A few years ago prior to purchasing any 12s cable to use in my stereo I pulled a HDMI cable from my video to use until I purchased a high end 12s cable . The HDMI cables for my video were a random choice from Bluejean website, Tarton brand . I later purchased WireWorld’s Platinum Starlight ran it in well plugged into my cable receiver. Remarkably the inexpensive Tarton cable equaled the Platinum Starlight in every way and with further comparison we found the Tarton cable to have a more full bodied presentation which was readily notable. In the four years I’ve used components with 12s outputs and input’s I haven’t had the urge to replace the inexpensive Tarton cable , who knows why it’s performance is so good . |
i need a new Hdmi cable due to the slowness of the HDMI 1.0 cable provided with my TV set-top box and I was missing one too. The one from Novhill is perfect for my TV set-top box TV 4K HD I felt a big difference between the previous one and that one in terms of latency; responsiveness was much more instantaneous.Novhill
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The packaging and the quality of the product is at the top in line with the product sheet. I highly recommend this brand for everything from cables, price quality and at the slightest malfunction go to their official website by marketing the warranty; they respond fairly quickly in case of a problem. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BB1N9CF |
I have so many HDMI cables in my system: (1) CATV box to HDTV; (2) Oppo DVD Blu-ray player to HDTV; (3) Apple TV to connector switch box; (4) Xbox 1 to connector switch box; (5) connector switch box to HDTV. Ugh.... I guess any higher grade cable would go between the Oppo DVD Blue-ray player and the HDTV. |
Good question. I use the Total Contact Graphene contact enhancer. I applied a very very thin coat of the product to both the ground surface on the HDMI plug and to the tiny pins of the cable, which is not as risky as it appears and easy done with the tiny brush applicator. If two surfaces adjoin only one surface needs to be painted. Just don’t load up on coffee beforehand. ☕️ |
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You get what you pay for. Cheap HDMI cables are for folks who aren’t really into the whole audio or video thing. For those with more uh, high end aspirations I recommend going whole hog. 🐷 I bought Audioquest Carbon HDMI cables used for $100. The new line of Audioquest HDMI cables are “controlled for directionality” like all of their cables and power cords. Not for beginners. |
Thank you all for chiming in with the HDMI brand suggestions. I just returned a $26 USB 2.0 A to B cable that runs from my Mac Mini to my dac and got a $5 one off from Amazon and I swear the expensive one sounds better. The cheap one is awful in my opinion. I just looked up Wireworld on amazon for the USB 2.0 A to B and they've got one for a $100. It's probably pretty good. Comments please. Thanks |
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👨🚀gdhal ^Actually, this appears to be par-for-the-course. You know, GK states the impossible and/or incorrect, then someone - anyone - corrects you, and then GK fires back with name calling and so forth. >>>>>I never once called anyone a name. Twice, maybe. Besides I do the difficult everyday. The impossible just takes a little longer, cowpoke. 🤠 |
^Actually, this appears to be par-for-the-course. You know, GK states the impossible and/or incorrect, then someone - anyone - corrects you, and then GK fires back with name calling and so forth. Do remember that *by your own admission*, you are the "king of fiction". Therefore, you are admitting nothing that you write has any truth what-so-ever. And, you've already requested "help" in another thread. I do feel bad for you that, apparently, to date you don't seem to be getting the help you so desperately need. And, to stay completely on thread topic, I could ask if you are you familiar with maps, geography and so forth. I ask because that is what's returned when searching for "direction" on this site. https://www.hdmi.org/index.aspx Maybe maps are the directionality you're referring to? 🤔 |
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Wow! Costco-emoji, all this time here and you still don’t know what the term directionality means? Get with the program! Think of it as just like directionality in fuses in the AC circuit or directionality in AC power cords. Directionality applies to all wire, even wire in HDMI cables and power cords, even teeny tiny wires in ribbon connectors... all wire. Hel-loo! |
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I would not say the cost is an overriding factor but I would not buy an inexpensive HDMI cable, meaning the ones sold in Target. I bought an Audioquest Carbon HDMI Cable used for a hundred bucks used and it’s fabulous. The Carbon like the other high end HDMI cables in the Audioquest lineup, are controlled for directionality, just like all their other high end cables and power cords. Accept no substitutes. |
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Awhile back, I mentioned the Jensen CATV filter. I had a pair of Mapleshade Vivilink 2+ at the time and initially had problems using them with the Oppo 203. At the time, I and those on the Oppo owners forum thought it a 1.4 vs. 2.0 problem. I don’t know if firmware updates or changing cable boxes fixed it, but by the time I got them back from Mapleshade, they worked. That led me to compare them with decent store bought and Monoprice cables, and I couldn’t see a difference. That’s testament to the Jensen filter (I wouldn’t think it applies to OTA, but don’t know). That’s video only. The best audio I’ve heard from both cable TV and Oppo, both via a DirectStream dac, are the silver cables formerly sold by PS Audio. (Suggestion to Mapleshade owners: If something needs return for technical support, ignore what it says on their website and always send it through the main location, not directly to Pierre S. That way it’s recorded in their system and they feel responsible. I didn’t, and had to threaten to go to the MD Attorney General to get the main office’s full attention and my cables back from Pierre seven months later.) |
I purchased, and then returned a set of Mapleshade Plus HDMI and digital coax about a year ago. The connector fit was extremely loose on the HDMI and caused digital boxes to form in a scene displaying a treeline, where my other HDMIs did not. There was obvious fuzziness in certain spots of various scenes. The digital coax was the exact opposite. Its fit was FAR too tight, and it transmitted no signal. Again, where my other coaxs had no issue. Obvious quality controls issues at Mapleshade. I did keep their Clearview double helix plus speaker wire and antistatic brush, which have both been excellent at their price point. I reverted to the MC Ultra black HDMI, which is no joke excellent, but I could not recommend at their retail price. Bought them cheap at auction. |
