NOS Western Electric wire used for power cables??

Bigkidz - did you buy this product? If so what are your opinions about it?

For reference:

http://cgi.ebay.com/10-AWG-WESTERN-ELECTRIC-WIRE-AC-POWER-CORD-AUDIOPHILE-/320536607615?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item4aa1787b7f

or

http://mojo-audio.com/

I have heard from one purchaser that while the cables are a relatively new offering the design has been getting tweaked fairly often over a short period of time (not unusual for some manufacturers). About the only thing that has remained constant is the actual wire itself. Also, seems like a price increase is on the way once the initial introductory offer expires.

Is all this Western Electric NOS wire covered in cloth or silk? Does any of the wire have an alternative coating? While the manufacturer states he uses a military spec wire, I'd be concerned if it was of the cloth/silk covered variety. I have seen interconnects and speaker cables made with cloth (ex. cotton) insulation, but these wires carry very little current compared to a power cord.

Well now that we've got that debate behind us, and a lot faster than the previous Simply-q versus Herman masterpiece match-up, I'll be happy to share a cat photo of my own:

clio

Simply_q, here you go: http://www.tripointaudio.us/PRODUCTS.htm

Audion member Himiguel is the manufacturer. I've had several conversations with him prior to him starting his business so I was pretty aware of his grounding technology and when Ben in his last post mentioned the grounding system it finally clicked.

Also, here is comment on Ben's eBay ad referencing the manufacturer:

miguel10744 is a manufacturer of high end audiophile power conditioners. He compared my power cords to ones that cost SEVERAL THOUSAND $$$ and mine won. He recently purchased my interconnects and digital cable (from my website): they are now his REFERENCE.
Positive feedback rating:
Cable as described. Great transaction, Highly Recommended. A+

Ben, why hide the manufacturers information? I've never known Miguel to shy away from a conversation about his technology and products.

Maybe this is why he doesn't like participating in forums anymore:

Thank you for the kind words, Roger. I'm so glad my advise has improved the sound of your system. As you know Holy $hit Inky Blackness can be a highly priced commodity :) But it need not be with a little bit of applied knowledge.

For those interested in what the heck we are talking about, take a look at this thread that Mr. Wavetrader started:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?fcabl&1234813956
Danmyers

The specific link in question on that thread can be found here:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?fcabl&1234813956&openflup&28&4#28

I've know a number of people who have implemented this grounding scheme with great results and at a significantly less cost than Tripoint charges for their technology.

Now, what it CAN do is help reduce noise from the single most common source of noise in audio systems, and that's interchassis leakage currents in the safety ground lead of the power cables.
Simply_q

Exactly, and while I agree it's a band aid, it's a rather inexpensive yet effective tweak with a much better cost to benefit ratio than a product that costs $8k - $12k. I'm not saying the Tripoint products don't work, but they're priced for those with much deeper pockets than most of us. For those on a more modest budget the Granite Audio Ground Zero provides a similar solution at a much lower cost.

The real culprit is the safety ground.

And it's only required on equipment chassis that don't meet Class II (double insulated) standards.

The manufacturers of low- and mid-fi gear have been designing their chassis to meet Class II specs for decades, and is why you see none of it come with three prong cords.

However the so-called "high-end" manufacturers have yet to figure this out and three prong cords are ubiquitous, even on equipment which may well meet Class II specs. So instead they foist three prong plugs on everyone along with the problems they can bring about.
Simply_q

Ayre is one company that double insulates its equipment chassis. Charles Hansen has posted numerous times on Audio Asylum his views on ground noise.

In my system I have a few components that use two prong attached cords. I also have lifted the grounds off the three prong cords by disconnecting the ground wire altogether, except the one for my power amp.

The fact that Miguel has sold quite a few Troy units (an owner of which now owns 3 Mojo audio power cords AND is looking for an isolation TX) should attest to the fact that it is worth $12k in enough systems for him to be able to sell it.
Mintzar

I mentioned earlier I can believe his products work, I certainly know he spent a lot of time in R&D, but to state that something is worth X number of dollars just because it sells isn't necessarily true.

As to the owner you mentioned, why after spending all that money on a Tripoint product would they need to look for an isolation transformer? I would have expected at their price point that the Tripoint products would be the last word in lowering the noise floor.

FWIW I have had Topaz isolation transformers in my system. I do believe they lower the noise floor, but in some environments they create noise as well. After all they are transformers. I will say this, isolation transformers offer a much higher cost/benefit ratio than many high dollar power products on the market.

Just like some cable manufacturers, some people that manufacture power products are riding an incredible marketing wave.

Who needs Herman and Sean when we have Richard_stacy who hits the nail right on the head.

Ben mentioned he was advised not to participate in forums. He should have taken that advice.

Simply_q, yes I know about the hazards, not sure if it applies in my situation, probably does, guess I'll just take the chance.

There are several PEOPLE that have been posting on and reading this thread that have contacted me on my PRIVATE e-mail who, like me, want to know who Simply Q is and get the link to his company's website.
Fuzzbutt17

Why the heck are these people who want to know who Simply_q is emailing you? They should be emailing him. I had a suspicion as to who he was (his user name is very telling) but I emailed him anyway and he confirmed what I suspected.

I assure you he is someone with audio manufacturing and technology know how. His products have been reviewed and not just by audiophiles and beta testers, but by trade publications. Many of his peers in the industry respect and seek his expertise.

Can he be arrogant, sure, but I think he has the credentials to be. Can he be insulting, sometimes, hey we're not all perfect.

I don't need to see any emails you have on this topic or on Simply_q. You really should go away now. Like Richard_stacy you have biased me. Too bad, it does appear that you have some nice cables, even those interconnects on your Website that in their clear wrapping look a lot like Goertz ;)

http://mojo-audio.com/Coherent-Ribbon-Interconnect-IC-R.htm