Noise on SAE 5000A when adjusting the sensitivity adjustment


Just  as the title says: I have an SAE 5000-A that I have owned for 5 yrs or so. 98%  I have no issues. However, I have bumped the slider a couple of times and it touched the extreme limits (read far-right) of the slider and this horrendous distortion/buzz can be heard. I played around and found it does the same thing when I move the slider to the extreme left. I have poked around various forums, looked at ChatGPT and even reached out to SAE (under their current incarnation) but the only answer I saw was ’this can be a problem because of the placing the slider at the extreme edges of motion’. Now, the wording of this didn’t say this was to be expected or... So I am wondering if anyone else has this unit or its ancestor, the 5000, and if you have observed a similar issue? I used deoxit on the slider/push buttons and that made the action a little smoother, but the extreme buzz/distortion remains.

Thanks a bunch,

Joe

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Well now, THAT was an interesting discussion.

So in addition to reaching out to here, I reached out to The Gurus themselves. The folks at SAE (now SAE-ATI) Customer support. John Baloff pointed me to some documents posted on HiFi Engine, one of them was a "SAE Important Notice" document. Opened it up and it turns out that the instruction used in the SAE manual was incorrect. The manual said to insert the SAE in the Preamp out->Main Amp loop or the usual tape loop. Well, the Important Notice said "DO NOT PLACE THE 5000 between the preamp and the amp!"

In a nutshell, it needs a certain voltage level to work. the preamp->amp is a line level voltage that will drive the 5000 over the limit and cause the distortion I was hearing. So, move the SAE to tape 1 on my preamp, reroute the main signal into my DBX and so on.

I just finished an hours worth of testing and validation with a recording I know has pops/clicks/dirt that doesnt want to get cleaned. Sure enough, the distortion at the extreme ends of the sensitivity control is now gone. Only some residual humming (which is to be expected, according to SAE). The final test was to play a tape, while playing said poppy record and select the 'Tape Monitor' on the SAE and see which signal source was played. Sure enough, it was the tape! Change the input back to the turntable and playback from the turntable resumed.

All of these things are indeed fun (and enlightening), but damn - I swear there is a lot of black magic involved!

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SAE 5000A

Impulse Noise Reduction System (1978)

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SAE 5000A

Description

One of the unavoidable obstacles which has challenged recorded music since the very first phonograph is impulse noise - those annoying pops and clicks which appear even on brand new records.

Like its predecessor, the SAE 5000A has been designed specifically to reduce these impulse noises and help you to once again enjoy those irreplaceable records you might have written off as hopelessly scratched.

Specifications

Channels: 2

Output level: 2.5V (9V max)

Frequency response: 20Hz to 20kHz

Signal to noise ratio: 90dB

Total harmonic distortion: 0.1%

Dimensions: 273 x 76 x 235mm

Weight: 3.6kg