New Von Schweikert VR SR4 mk11 Cream or Crap ???


It is hard to find a recent review of these speakers.
The few comments I been able to find on the Mk 11 version is that they are either very good or very bad.
All reviews seem to like the bass response, that is a good thing, but what about all the other qualities ?
Like treble, midrange, dynamics, soundstage , etc.

I am really interested in these (I like the way the look )but I have no way to audition them in the southeast corner of Michigan.

So, please anyone that can give an honest opinion of the speakers sonic qualities would be appreciated.

If your comments sound like a winner, I may hop on a plane to hear them somewhere.
128x128ozzy
Chadnliz,
I could not find the place listed.
Please send me an email with the phone number. If I can connect , I will go there next weekend.

I was able to listen to the Salk HT3 this weekend.
Ozzy,
Cant you go to Sturgis Michigan and check out the Von Schweikert line at Apollo AV as I mentioned in earlier post?
Call HigherFi in Minneapolis Minn.(952)440-2226 they might be able send you in the right direction.I ended up going to the factory in San Marcos Ca.and listening there.I live close by so it wasn't a problem.HigherFi is the online distributor, not sure if they have a showroom but it might be worth your time. Good luck.
Von Schweikert should be able to direct you to the nearest dealer Thier number is (760) 410-1650 email albertvonn@aol.com. Perhaps start new post asking if anyone owning VS is near your location. You would be welcome to listen to mine but I am in NC
I replaced a set of Quad 989s and a pair of subs with the VR4 SR MK2 and I don't miss the Quads even a little.The MK2 are great speakers.
I moved up the Von Schweikert ladder to the VR7 se. All have been exciting to listen to and non fatigueing. You are dealing with a company that stands by their products. Their resale is also very good if you need to upgrade.
Well the only way is to listen to the systems, those reviews on audio review dont really impress me that much they look kind of fabricated, whatever that means. Schweikerts been around a long time and has countless awards and reviews by the big guns. Like i said listen first..
Audiotomb,
I've read a lot about the salks and I've interacted with owners in audio circle. I actually missed the opportunity to attend the RMAF in Denver last year as this was my chance to hear them because there is no one in Salt lake city i know who owns them. I wanted to get your take on the sound of them compared to the Vons vr4jr and used VR4 GenIII SE and HSE's. I'm leaning in the direction of the VAC musicbloc amps to push them because i like the 3d imagaging and the air around each instrument produced of those amps and from what i hear, the Vons work beautifully with VAC equipment. The Salks look dang good and its amazing what Jim Salk can do with wood veneers. It's on another level really. I understand that you like them better than the vons and i want to ask what do you like better about them?
Ozzy

The Von Schweikerts are a great speaker and worthy of consideration. The Salks should be heard

Jim's new shop is in the Pontiac area

bring your own material and happy listening
Gammajo,Jrun,Oz, and courtvision21, Thanks for the great opinions.
The Von schweikerts are still on my short list , looking for the best place to audition them.

Audiotomb, thanks for the link, the Saulk look great ! sort of like the Sophia Wilson. Oakland County is not too far, I will try to hear them maybe this Saturday.

Chadnliz, Sturgis will be a jaunt but I will seek them out and lIsten to the VMPS.
I own the Von Schweikert VR-4 SR MKI (so take my reply with a grain of salt), and I totally agree with the two positive remarks above. This speaker does everything right and will bring out the best of your equipment, the better up and down stream components, the better the SRs will perform. At the $10-12k retail price range, it's one of the best choices, and easily beats and put some other higher priced speakers in the $20k range to shame. But as always, see if you can get an audition and decide for yourself. Let us know how you make out.
is Sturgis Michigan too far? It lists as Apollo AV in the dealer network.
I had a deal to buy the SR about 2 yrs ago but went VMPS instead, the dealer who carried VS has went out of business.
oz

since you live in se Michigan you owe it to yourself to audition the Salk HT3 speaker

Jim Salk uses top end drivers seemlessly integrated and placed in the most exquisite handmade cabinetry

Jim is located in Oakland Michigan

his website listing

http://www.salksound.com/ht3.html

many comments on audiogon (do a search Salk HT3) or at audiocircle where there is a users group
http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?board=82

I owned Schweikert Vortex screens - and demo'd the VR4 Gen III SE. I purchased Salks.

You really must add these to your short list

tom
I heard the Mark I version and was not impressed. I heard the DB-99 at the same demo and it was a far better speaker. I would also say that the VR4 Gen III SE sounds better to my ears than the Sr.

Oz
I will second the positive opinion of the VR4SR. I too have the MkI version. I also spoke to A.VonSchweikert and was told the only reason for the MkII was a discontinued driver and the crossover had to be revoiced to match the originals. Fit and finish are first rate. I have the cherry finish and have no complaints. These speakers do it all quite well and I have heard nothing in their price range that hands down beats them. Personal tastes are just that and yours are as valid as anyone else's. If the recording contains the information the VR4SR's will deliver it with authority to your ears. You will not find a more accessable company or a bigger bargain in its price range.

Associated equipment: Llano Design A-200 Class A 200 watt amp.
Thor Audio T1000MkII preamp
Meridian G08 cd player
Basis 1400 turntable
Acurus P10 phono pre
Cobalt Cables interconnects and Speaker cable
PS Audio Duet
I have the VR SR4's without the mkII. The factory describes these as very similar to the mkII. They only changed becuase the Aerogel mid was discontinued. Here's a mini review of the SR4. I hope this helps.
My musical taste favors classical, pop and rock. I play classical piano and sing. The most important aspect of sound in descending order for me would be natural and non-fatiguing, excellent portrayal of timber, detail, ability to convey instrument and hall decay, accuracy, fast dynamics, bass fullness and slam, and stage width. Less important for me is stage depth and height. The worst thing a system could do is to be strident, harsh, cold, or muddy.

I have now had my pair of VR4Sr's for nine months. They are gorgeous in African Hazelwood. My wife and I are super pleased with the fit and finish. The separate base and mid/high modules create a sense of lightness, avoiding the large box feel. The available cherry finish looked smeared, but the poplar looked great as well. After break-in a few things are obvious: 1. They can easily fill my 38X22 room with no efforting or shout. 2. They are seamless to my ear across the spectrum, measuring flat at near field listening position except a small hump at 60-80 HZ. I have a concert grand piano in the same room and the sound quality, micro-dynamics, and note decay from the speakers and the piano are quite close. Piano pieces are captivating in detail, depth, clarity, and accuracy. 3. My concern that I did not have a high enough quality front end to do them justice was unfounded. In fact I talked to Von senior himself and he said that they were designed to perform well with an affordable front end. 4. I seem to be sacrificing only sound stage depth and a bit of instrument position with near front wall placement (about 18 inches from the back of the speaker) and they were not too particular about sidewall placement and distance apart. 5. The company has been exceptional to deal with and the packing was intelligent and secure.

Details: Bass, spiked on wood flooring, is tight, articulate, fast and full. Mids are excellent, natural and detailed. Highs are sensitive to quality of the recording, cables, and front end - when all is right, it is detailed, neutral, and sweet in the good sense. For example with silver speaker cables the highs were painfully strident at loud volume, with copper the highs are wonderful. Soundstaging in terms of precise instrument localization has been a challenge with my setup with a TV recessed between the speakers (a blanket over the TV helps). Stage width is fine, extending beyond the speakers and the sweet spot is wide and deep. I like the speakers on all material but they seem most exceptional on solo instrument, voice, small ensemble, jazz, and pop. Orchestral is very good. Heavy, dense rock is only good (too revealing of defects) unless the recording quality is exceptional, such as Dire Straits, then the speakers shine.

In comparison to the VR4’s, the Wilson Sophia’s auditioned with all Marantz equipment sounded a bit sterile, very accurate, and less musical to me. The Krell’s Resolution 2’s sounded less satisfying overall, partly because of bass response.
The VR4SR’s replaced Polk SDA-SRS 2.3’s I had used for ten years. Sounds changed to much closer to live music with more detail and ambience conveyed. The VR’s have renewed my interest in music and I listen almost every night, discovering new beauty in all my favorites. I can able listen at lower volumes and still experience the “That’s fabulous” grin. I know myself well enough to know that if I won the lottery, I’d go out and audition ultra high-end equipment starting with VS products, but short of this I feel that the speakers will satisfy me for a decade. Overtime I may improve my front end and I think the VR’s will handle it. I am very pleased and would recommend that they be on the short list of anyone looking in the under 20K range.

Music used to audition the VR4SR’s plus the Wilson’s and Krell’s
For female vocal Jennifer Warnes, The Well, Famous Blue Raincoat,
For male vocal Bruce Springfield, The Rising, Crosby, Stills…Déjà Vu
For rock Led Zeplin, Pink Floyd, Dire Straits
For classical Bach Fugue in C minor, Rimsky Korsakov Scherazade
For choral Rachmaninoff Vespers
For Jazz and brushes against cymbals, Missouri Sky
For piano Kissin Liszt Transcendental Etudes, Horszowski and Ohlson Works
For violin Scottish Fantasies, Vivaldi Four Seasons
For flute Galoway Christmas

Associated equipment: Aragon 8008BB 200Watt per channel dual mono SS amp, Aragon 28K SS preamp, NorthStar 192 DAC and CD Transport, Guerrilla Silver IC and woofer cable, copper to the mid/tweeter biwired.