New user phono question. Comes with free story.


So once upon a time I saved a record player from the trash.  It don’t think it was anything special as those things go, but it was much beloved by me.  It was the first, and until recently, the only “system” I had ever heard that made me understand why people sit and spend hours just listening to music.. And did I ever put in the hours.  I was in school then, and time was a luxury I had.  That little record player spun so much that it eventually started spinning faster and faster until I couldn’t listen to it.  Without the knowhow to repair it, or the money to replace, it went into the trash with the intention to replace it.. Someday... Then came wife, then came kids.

Fast forward 15 years, and it occurred to me one morning that I had the time to listen to music again.  To me the choice of media was obvious.  I had fallen in love with vinyl, and it was time to rekindle the love afair.  That was about two months ago. It all started innocently enough, borrowing dusty components from be basements of friends and family to cobble something together that would reproduce sound. It was okay, but the first attempt didn’t come close to the sound I remembered.  From there I started shopping for better components and things spiraled out of hand rather quickly.

So far, I’ve bought an old Sony PS-X6 turntable with a Sure M95-ED cartridge, a Technics SU-V6 amp, and a set of Vaughn Triode speakers.  I wanted to encourage my kids to use the stereo too, so to make it more convenient, I decided to add a digital source.  That wound up being Amazon music, a Lavaudio blue-tooth adapter, and a Denifrips Ares II.  And this brings me to the problem.
 

The digital source sounds better, as in WAY better.  On digital, listening gives me that first date butterflies feeling every time, and I just want to turn it up, and up some more.  On vinyl there is just less, less of everything.  Now I am at a cross roads.  I have to decide weather to put more money into the vinyl or just abandon a few hundred pounds of records which I have recently discovered are all available in very nice quality digital anyway.  This finally brings me to the question.  Budget is a concern for me and I’m wondering if I have just fluked into some equipment that under-performs on records, or dollar for dollar, is it just harder to get performance from vinyl?  Do you think it would be realistic to get to the performance of the digital side of the system for say, a $1000 investment, or is that just a pipe dream?  I already have an integrated MC phono stage, so maybe I should try another cartridge?

If you’ve read this far. Thanks!

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Showing 3 responses by ghdprentice

Given the age I infer you to be… I would skip vinyl. Could you equal your digital end for a grand? Maybe. But $2K or $3K would be better. But why not just invest in the single digital side… upgrade to the Qobuz service which will sound much better. Use the money to upgrade you weakest component. So, unless you are in love with fiddling with records for the sake of fiddling. Digital is getting better rapidly and will continue to do so. 

I have a really good vinyl and digital end that sounded the same for a long time. But I have 2,000 pristine albums collected over 50 years. So, I’ll keep my vinyl… I’m also an old fart.

OP,

You are doing the right thing with cables and interconnects… wait until you have all the components in your system. Even then, there is a threshold where cables and interconnects begin to make a difference. Audio systems are like scientific instruments… the better they are the more sensitive they are. Get the very best components you can afford. Then get to know the sound intimately and then maybe think about cables and interconnects. Btw, a great trick is 10 gauge 3 wire Home Depot power cord for speaker wire… cut off ends just like you did. This could be a great test later. Compare your current cables with HD 10G cables.

 

Yes also to paraphernalia in vinyl… a good record vacuum cleaner is, well not necessary, but really close to that. A dust brush, instruments to adjust. Stylist cleaner… each you will find violent discussions on line as to which is better. You find what I am talking about… come on in, the water is hot. I learned all this when there was no alternatives. My system is shown under my UserID if you are interested.

OP,

Thank you for your kind words. If, for some reason you get into the Portland Oregon area, please contact me. I’d be happy to meet up. I am very jealous of where you live. I am very ashamed of being a US citizen. Much of my career was living internationally… apologizing for our politics and politicians. If I was younger, I would move to Canada or Northern Europe… or better yet a small island in the South Pacific.

But aside from where we live. Audiophiles are generally far between. Putting together a great system is not easy anywhere… although it does get easier in large metropolitan areas.