New upper trim level Corvette or seven year old used amps?


Recently I have experienced quite a few people I know either passing on or being diagnosed with some type of cancer. And as I have never strived to be the richest guy in the graveyard, I was thinking of buying one of the new Corvettes. I also started to look at my older tube amps, good, but I had had them for about nine years, and the whole tube thing....then I started to think about some SS amps( I know, I’m going to hell). TAD M600, Dagostino M400, and then ventured into Dartzeel territory. Long story shorter: I came upon a pair of used Dartzeel 458’s, totally crazy price, totally crazy good. I have had them about a month and have enjoyed over 100 hours of listening nirvana. Had I bought the vette and drove it 100 hours, I’d have lost my drivers license, and spent thousands on tires, fuel, fines, etc.  
myth buster: it’s all worth it! Expensive power and speaker cables, interconnects, speakers, and Dartzeel 458’s.
Anyone that tells you otherwise is using cost not quality as a determining factor.
Enjoy the music and Life

Matt

mrmatt

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Millercarbon: wow touched a nerve, eh. You did not address my questions though. After just two years the GT40 engine was determined illegal by the FIA, so Ford pulled out. Where is the FIA based? Europe, where P and F cars are made. Why didn’t the FIA disqualify the 917 or 935 engines after a decade of dominance? Look at the early 80’s pics of Daytona 24 hrs. It’s like the 24 hrs of Porsche, with a mustang and two beemers. Also you didn’t address: why didn’t Porsche go head to head with the Audi at Lemans? Because they don’t Ike to lose, that’s why.
Fact: Porsche has made some of the best cars in the world. So has BMW and Bentley and Mercedes, and FORD!
Fact: the FIA is very political, and biased.

A racing rules body, political? Imagine that.
News flash: the race isn’t all on the track.

When you’ve mastered the subject, believe me, there are no nerves. There is however a sense of humor. Porsche afraid of Audi. Good one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clZOMYjaGt8
"It is the essence of the human spirit to seek a reason for being."

"This is why functional designs are so beautiful, so calming."

This is beyond racing. This is beyond cars. This is Porsche.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOE9mNe5c7M
A question to the Porschephiles:
Why didn’t they go head to head with the Ford GT40 way back or more recently, the Audi R10 diesel? Instead they go to LMP2? Really? They always wimp out against dominating competition. They make great cars no doubt, but they do not like competitors, unless it’s them.


Baffling, sophomoric questions. Not surprised. Hardly anyone knows motorsport, let alone Porsche. Let me fill you in on just a tiny little bit:

From the beginning and for most of history Porsche was a very small company that could ill afford to spend much on advertising or racing. Porsche never did race for fame or glory nearly so much as to prove designs and reliability directly applicable to production. That is why the first epic Porsche wins were races like the Targa Florio (where Porsche trounced Ferrari and all other much more powerful cars, and for which the Porsche Targa is named) and the Carrera Panamericana (same deal, and from which the Porsche Carrera and Panamera take their names).

Then and to this day Porsche has focused on endurance racing. Porsche does not race against Ford, or Ferrari, or Audi. The competition for Porsche is perfection. 

The 24 hours of LeMans is the pinnacle of motorsport. Porsche has more outright LeMans wins than anyone. Its not even close. Porsche so dominates LeMans they maintained their historic record despite not even being there for many years. Then despite their long absence very nearly won on their first year back, proceeded to win the next 3, and in 2015 established a motorsport record never to be equalled by anyone, ever:

17th overall victory at LeMans

ALL GT titles in the US Sports Car Championship

FIA WEC GTE Pro Manufacturers', Drivers', and Team Championships

FIA WEC Drivers Champion

FIA WEC World Champion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWd6Y86oPtk

So remind me again, what was that question about Porsche being afraid of competition? 
Great choice millercarbon. They started galvanizing the cars in 78 which abolished the rust problem. You are however due for an engine rebuild if you have not done it already. It will cost you 10 to 15K. Just giving you the warning if you are not aware already. It is just the price of owning an air cooled car. If you really want a killer motor send the car to Flat 6 Solutions, Jake Raby’s shop. Best engine re builders in the States. They are always a year out so you have to get in line. My 2006 C4S is going there next year. Generally what happens is the car will start leaking and or burning oil. It will not hurt it at all to keep driving it. Most veteran 911 drivers keep track of their oil consumption. Don’t ever sell the car. Just keep up with it. Pass it on to one of your kids. It will just keep going up in value:)


The general rule with Porsche is buy the newest one you can afford. In my case back then it was the SC. Even then it was a stretch. But worth it because while I didn’t know near as much then as now I did know the SC was galvanized, with the 3.0 probably the strongest Porsche ever made. Even so you still need to care for them and not chronically overheat like the prior owner did mine necessitating an abnormally early and major rebuild. The 150k miles are since the rebuild. It’ll easily go another 100k at least. Easily.

I mentioned mine not because its anything special but the opposite, they made thousands of these yet still they appreciate. People unfamiliar with Porsche will have no idea what I’m talking about, but "mint" has a completely different meaning to us. "Mint" to most means unbelievably perfect, like new. "Mint" to most is a pinnacle. In terms of Porsche it is just the way they are supposed to be. The closest in meaning we use is original.

This is much like the way someone who thinks they know high end will talk about how great a system makes certain music sound, while the one who really knows will say instead it merely does much less harm to the signal than most others.

The difference may seem like mere words until you look in the real world and find my car, what every 911 enthusiast would refer to as a daily driver, chock full of flaws, is nevertheless in far better condition than ones I have seen sell on Bring A Trailer for $40k. In other words if somebody thinks they know a "mint" SC for $35k either they don’t know anything about Porsches, or the seller doesn’t, or both.

This is not by the way Mike so much me talking to you as the rest of these, uh, guys. You’re sending a C4S to FSI, that is more Porsche cred than I can match, and I was PCA Region president, Driving Instructor, etc. etc. Congratulations. Whatever level and however long it takes it will be stronger, smoother, snappier, more reliable and with a better warranty than anything ever to come out of Stuttgart.

My plan is to sell the SC next year, order a new one in 21. Mostly because its been my lifelong dream to take factory delivery and tour the passes and forests. Also because track driving at 62 isn’t near as important as consuming miles and flying up mountain passes in comfort.

Lifelong dreams aside though, to drive a Jake Raby 911, wow, would I love to hear how that goes. Well done.
At 16 with little money the choice was literally a car or a stereo. A car looked to me like a money pit. Especially the kind of used cars a 16 year old can afford. Not that things have changed much. A new car today is reliable but gas, insurance, registration, there's just no end to it. There is however one car you can drive for free: Porsche 911.

Buy one at least 12 years old. Own it at least 20 years. My 79 SC bought for $16k in 91 is now 150k miles later a $40k car. Enough to get all my money back, including all the gas and maintenance and insurance over the entire 30 years of ownership.

Try that with a stereo. Try that with a Corvette. Ha!
Well, of course its worth it. Compared to a Corvette.
A Porsche on the other hand....