New TEO Audio ICs, who has them?


TEO has been busy, they recently introduced the KRONOS ICs:

https://www.dagogo.com/audio-blast-three-new-cables-two-cable-makers/

I see they also have an upgraded version of the Game Changer (GC II):

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis8e6gg-teo-audio-gcii-1m-different-physics-math-different-result...


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As expected, there will be a high degree of resistance to this from skepticism. Even friends who I have known for about ten years - who should know by now that I don't promote junk advancements - still express skepticism on some of my recommendations. There seems to be a natural resistance to novel system methods. But, when they hear it, they quickly change their tune! (pun!)

Last week I had a group in visiting to hear the PureAudioProject Trio15 Horn 1 Speakers. I had the EE Minimax DAC Supreme in the rig, and it can accept discrete opamps. I have three sets of discrete opamps I roll into that DAC. One anti-horn listener wasn't impressed with the sound. I said, "I can change it in about two minutes..." They were not buying the idea that opamps could revolutionize the performance. I did two changes over about a half hour to the opamps. They were, shall we say, humbled by the experience, all admitting how shocked they were by the sea change of sound with each set of opamps.

That's just one example of how the average audiophile seems to begin from a position of skepticism, and some never get past it. I try to stare my own skepticism down and actually try things. Cables, fuses, opamps, and now double ICs are all highly efficacious.

I told a well-known pre/amp manufacturer recently to try swapping out the fuses in their power amps. The reply was to the effect, "It shouldn't make any difference if it's not in the signal path..." SIGH! I feel like shouting, "JUST TRY IT!" My two examples I discussed with them both involved the power fuse, and that was enough to convince me of the efficacy of such aftermarket fuses.

There is no replacing trying.

Congrats, Wig! It's a good means of demonstrating to both skeptics and long term audiophiles how wrong they may be when they think the sound is maxed out and it can't get much better. What's great is that if you really like the sound you get with your cables, it can get a lot better. :) 
Frankly, it's almost unnerving how much quality is lost by single interconnect wiring. 

Again, I caution people new to this topic to read the article on the Schroeder Method and heed the warnings. There are always some who want to plow ahead without due diligence, and that is not advisable. 





I am gratified by the people who are willing to give an ear and try this, albeit watching out for the cautionary comments about the experimental nature of the Schroeder Method at this stage. 

I summoned the nerve to put up a few thousand dollars worth of gear to test it out with XLR. It works, and works stunningly! I was concerned about the potential of signals being crossed by the pin configuration of a Y adapter/cable being opposite of the norm. I used a multimeter to test for continuity to ensure the signal was not crossing when going from Y splitter to two XLR interconnects, then back together via a reverse Y cable. It's not the easiest thing in the world to flip the on switches of gear on an experimental rig that you worry could cause one or more components to fail. 

The results were as good, perhaps even more astounding with XLR. But, that cannot be said in any way definitively, as this was a different set of electronics and cables. At this point it shows that it's not only good for RCA; it may be a universal improvement. IMHO, this is no small event, but a watershed moment in system configuration. Unless I encounter some failure of a component due to the use of the Schroeder Method, I can't go back to single interconnects. It's just too paltry, too impoverished sounding. 

I would like to clarify; I do not consider this a tweak. This is way too powerful, repeatable and in the signal path to be considered a tweak, imo. I see most tweaks as insipid methods, almost inversely insignificant in comparison to the Schroeder Method. I don't believe I am exaggerating - Having put up hundreds of rigs at MSRP up to $100K - to say that this easily has the sonic value of a $25K  improvement of components in a rig, and some cases more. I have made dozens of discrete rigs with the Kingsound King III electrostatic speakers and never, ever have they performed as they are today. 

The power structure of the system using the Schroeder Method is astonishing. The low end is dramatically improved. I do not see a downside to this in terms of sound. I'm guessing that a small contingent of people who want mushier, more recessed, less distinct sound will object. So be it; have the music your way by using a single IC. Not me; I don't think I'm ever going back. 

I hope this sparks a new wave of sound quality in the industry and community. I think this has potential to open a lot of minds that have been closed, and to advance the average guy's rig several levels without decimating the sales of the upper echelon equipment. This has been one of the most amazing months for me as an audiophile. The level of change possible now has brought me closer to realization of my conceptualization of how an audio system should sound than ever before. I am elated that it seems to work with both RCA and XLR; I had no strong reason to doubt that it wouldn't. 

Again, please exercise whatever caution and care you need, and if you are in doubt, please discuss with your manufacturer! This is a do at YOUR own risk activity, as I have said several times. My guess is there are people looking at this and scratching their heads, and word will get around. I don't think this is a small deal. Example; the rig I put together to test this is under $10K MSRP and it trashed every other rig regardless of cost that I've used with the King III. (Of course, what might have been the case had those rigs used the Schroeder Method?) 

Naysayers, mockers... please, don't even bother. I have zero desire to argue with you about this. I have learned to pay little attention to you over the years, thank God! I never would have done such interesting and efficacious work if I had listened to the hecklers. 
All this is causing me a splitting headache! Actually, no; I'm having a grand time! 
Yes, the Schroeder Method works. I was shocked the first time I tried it how much information was revealed to have been blocked/lost by using a single interconnect. There will be those who because of theory disdain, or even outright ridicule the Method. It does seem to fly in the face of theory, however in every implementation of it (Noting the repeated cautions about how to implement it) I have done it is powerfully positive. 

This may bring the discussion of the efficacy of cables into new territory. 

Yeah, like the Heimlich Maneuver, only not quite as important, especially if someone is choking.


Just to be sure, t_ramey, when you begin cooking up your own designs you are doubly into the "do at your own risk" arena. I doubt TEO wants to be responsible for home made cables and outcomes. I can see perfectly why they would not wish to divulge such information - and no one should be aggrieved because of that.

Very nice things happening. Several additional iterations all confirm the efficacy of the Schroeder Method. Gear performing at an unprecedented level. 


Testing is ongoing... have yet to hear a detrimental result with the Schroeder Method. I have done perhaps six systems and all have been uniformly impressive in terms of degree of change and quality of change.