New speakers for a new start?


Hi all, this is my first thread on this forum. I am returning to audio after a 20-year hiatus, and I am planning a new-to-me, music-only, 2-channel system. I'm pretty excited!

Other than my Thorens TD-320 series I, I am (re-)starting from scratch. I plan to focus on speakers, then build the rest of my system around them.

I look forward to hearing folks' feedback and advice during this process.

How I listen: I have a pretty big room, 9' ceilings. I can set speakers in a 10' triangle with about 16' clear behind them and 3' to 6' to the sides. I normally listen around 75 - 85db at 10', but sometimes I like to crank things way up. Also, I can't sit still for extended periods of time so I tend to move around quite a bit.

What I listen to: 30 - 40% blues, 30 - 40% industrial, punk, post-punk, noise, and hip-hop, 10-15% ambient, 10 - 15% various pop styles, 5 to 10% jazz and classical. Nearly all are studio recordings. Source-wise, 75-80% digital streaming, 20% vinyl and (very occasionally) CDs.

Things I like in speakers: A generous amount of fast, tight, well-controlled bass with great extension. Little to no coloration - it can always be added in later through component selection. Fast transient response. Detail. Coherence. Transparency. Great dynamics. I'm OK with "analytical" or "dry" within reason.

Things I don't like: Boominess. Flabiness. Ear-piercing mids.

Here are a few speakers I'm interested to learn more about (in no particular order):
- Thiel CS5
- Dunlavy SC-4, SC-5
- Tyler Acoustics D1x, D10
- Nearfield Pipedreams 21
- Infinity IRS (probably not the Reference behemoths though... realistically)
- I am also intrigued by open baffle designs (Spatial, Jamo R909)

I prefer full-range speakers because I don't love subs with music listening. They're a must in a home theater though.

I love planar speakers for their speed and transparency, but the fact that I can't sit still in their minuscule sweet spot for very long, coupled with their general lack of bass probably makes them a less than ideal choice for me.

I will buy used gear unless something I want happens to be available new at a huge discount. I am more interested in value than in staying within a specific dollar limit and be able to resell at par or at a modest loss if, as time goes by, I find I'm no longer as enamored with them as I once was.

I am interested in your experiences, especially with the speakers I mentioned above, but any and all feedback is appreciated. Thanks in advance!
 

devinplombier

Showing 1 response by verdantaudio

Couple thoughts 

Given that you are building from scratch, I agree vehemently in starting with speakers first.  Speakers are frequently the worst component in terms of resale  and visually the most prominent combined with being heavy, easily damaged and hard to handle.  

You mention "I love planar speakers for their speed and transparency, but the fact that I can't sit still in their minuscule sweet spot for very long, coupled with their general lack of bass probably makes them a less than ideal choice for me."

This is more of a view of one particular brand rather than all Planars.  There are others that behave very differently.  Take a look at Diptyque.  These have MUCH better bass response and overall are an exciting speaker that works quite well and have a broader sweetspot. 

For that same sort of immersive experience you could look at speakers beyond Legacy which is a nice product.  Brands to consider:

1. Borreson which is a hot at the moment is an interesting product as is.  These are tough to place in-room but if they work in your space they are amazing

2. Raidho/Scansonic which is Borreson's former company. Same issue as Borreson, hard to place but have a broader range of pricing.

3. Audiovector as it delivers a similar experience, is easier to place and is far more reasonably priced. That said, they aren't as novel as Borreson at the moment.

There are a million other speakers around that are great.  Everything from Martin Logan, Vivid, Wilson Benesch, Wilson, Magico, Rockport, Marten, etc...  You need to find ones that you want to look at and deliver the experience you want.  

Full disclosure, I am a Diptyque, Audiovector, Raidho and Wilson Benesch dealer.  I have no affiliation with any of the other brands mentioned.