New preamp or up grade my cartridge and or phono amp?


I have an Emotiva XMC-1 with a Rega P6 TT a Rega MCFONO phono amp and a Rega Ania cartridge. If I'm running the Emotiva in the "reference mode", would it make more sense to up grade the cartridge and phono amp (maybe even the tonearm) or add a new preamp with a HT bypass

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@groovey I’ve only used the hybrid Rogue Medusa amp in my system so can’t opine much, but the Cronos gets great reviews so it’s a good bet you’re gonna be happy, and Rogue’s customer service is outstanding.  Unfortunately I know precisely zero about the Ares (or the Cronos’ phono section), but my strongest recommendation would be to start streaming asap with Qobuz or Tidal — it’ll literally change your life and your only regret will be that you didn’t start years ago.  Sorry I don’t have more for ya and hope all works out well with the new Rogue!

I think it’s no trick to make a very low distortion, wide bandwidth linestage, and linestages need not be hyper-expensive.

Says the guy with a >$10k preamp, ehem.

As with upgrading any audio component, which preamp would be driven primarily by what improvements you’re looking for and what sound characteristics are most important to you.  Bigger 3D soundstage, better tonality, etc. would be the kinds of things you should identify that you’re looking for and then go from there.  Rogue is actually interesting because it’s a neutral sounding tube pre yet still likely sounds quite a bit different from your Emotiva, and I believe Rogue is one of the few tube pre manufacturers that disables the tubes when using the HT bypass, which is really nice when you’re just watching movies or TV.  Anyway, if you can clarify more what you’re looking for you’ll get several good recommendations here. 

But I'm still kind of stuck on why the preamp is so important if I'm using the "Reference Mode" which is supposed to be a straight shot through. Unless it isn't.

It isn’t.  A passive preamp is closer to what you’re describing (although even those have an impact on sound), and as your prepro is active it’s not even close to a “straight shot through.”  The preamp is amplifying a small signal, which is why it can have a significant impact on the sound that’s ultimately produced, and many (me included) feel the preamp can make an even bigger overall impact on system performance than an amp although this can be very system dependent.  Further, prepros are obviously multifunctional and most are designed to meet an aggressive price point, and the necessary result is that critical/expensive parts (power supplies, volume control, etc.) are compromised to meet aggressive cost constraints.  This is why your $2500 prepro costs the same as or much less than many dedicated stereo preamps despite including all the multichannel, digital, and video processing as well.  I’d guess if all the added functionality were stripped out of your prepro and was sold as a stereo pre it’d cost closer to $1500, which is fairly inexpensive especially as your pre is purported to be fully balanced that nearly doubles the parts required versus a single-ended design.  So while using “Reference Mode” may deactivate unnecessary functions for pure stereo listening and reduce added noise/circuitry to some degree, the signal is still flowing through cheaper electronics than it would through a comparably-priced dedicated stereo preamp, and that makes a big difference.  Hope this provides some helpful info as to why “Reference Mode” doesn’t provide a get outta jail free card as far as preamps go.

Preamps matter, and they matter a lot.  They are often called the heart of a system for a reason, so dismiss it at your own risk.  A good stereo preamp should significantly outperform your prepro in any mode and would probably be the first thing I’d add/upgrade in your system.  Just my $0.02 FWIW.