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The Pulsars and Perspectives use the same drivers.
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Have you heard the Joseph Audio Profile or Prism? Lower price points and amazing performance.
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I own a pair of Joseph Audio Perspective2 Graphene speakers. I am breaking them in.
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There are so many hyperbolic statements on this site that accurate praise is lost in the hyped marketing. Anyway, here goes.
This is is the best speaker I have owned and one of the best I have heard. It is a destination speaker. Compared to my original Perspectives, it has more and better defined bass. Kick drum sound realistic. It is simultaneously richer with better definition. Silky smooth midrange. Lyrics are clear, smooth and accurate. Same tweeter and cabinet.
Slightly more efficient. Excellent off-axis response anywhere in the room. They throw a wide sound stage, almost wall-to-wall, in part because they are locked into the room. |
Same tweeter, but not quite as bright. Minor distinction.
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@erik_squires & @prof Erik’s prediction was mistaken. They are slightly more efficient, say 2dB. They also sound better at lower volume.
Compare @diminches vs. @fsonicsmith comments. They may not be for everyone. I do not think increased resolution diminishes musicality. 4K TVs do not have worse or better color than 1080p TVs. Also, they are in my home with my electronics, not in crowded rooms with show conditions. Some people, not me, like electrostatics. Martin Logans at shows sound either wonderful or horrible. I hate B&Ws at every show I have attended.
@rib61 They are new. BTW, the original Perspectives were always and still are a great speaker. I do not know about percentages. Let me say they are the cure for upgrade fever. They are everything I have been looking for in a speaker, without taking price into account.
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My point is color and resolution are not mutually exclusive for TVs. Musicality and high definition are not mutually exclusive for speakers.
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I disagree with the Stereophile show report. The Perspective2s are smother, but nothing is “whited out.” They use the same tweeter. They have higher resolution overall. |
Jason said, "The sound may be a little whited out, but it is seductively smooth." Read more at https://www.stereophile.com/content/rowland-conductor-phono-preamp-joseph-audio-perspective2-graphen...I have no idea what this means, but we do not seem to be hearing the same thing. The Perspective2 sound richer and deeper, one of the best I have heard. I view reviewers as giving me a lead. I make my decisions on what I hear. BTW, I might like the O/96s more if the demoed them with better music. The selection of music at these shows often is horrible, unless Lars Christensen is in the room. |
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I like the old LSAs with the Raal ribbon tweeters. I prefer the original Pulsars. One of the best systems I have ever heard was Magico S7s with Soolution amps driving them. Of course, it was a $200K+ system. |
I agree, but it depends on the size of the room, how crowded it is and how quickly you can move through the remaining must-hear rooms. When you play your music, I tend to linger in the room longer.
John Devore is a great guy who needs to get you through the door. |
That’s my point: comparing the LSA against the Joseph Audio Pulsar is not a fair comparison. BTW, @audiotroy, you criticize everything you do not sell. Everyone here views you as a troll |
@prof is correct. I have not heard the new Pulsar2 Graphenes. Sorry for any confusion. |
The BØRRESEN 01 is a great speaker. I think it is competitive with the Pulsar2 Graphene, more so than the LSA. You should decide for yourself.
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Yes, troll who tries to divert from the OP’s topic to discuss products he sells. Look at the Audio Doctor’s other posts.
If a tree falls in the forest and @prof hears it, is the sound fictional at best?
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And now we are off the rails and into the weeds. |
@audiotroy Has hi-jacked another thread |
@audiotroy A troll criticizes speakers he does not sell - the Pulsar2 and the Perspective2 - and then praises the Personas he does sell, an opinion with a strong financial bias. You are a troll seeking free advertising on this forum.
Your suggestion that that you have made me unhappy contains a false assumption, that your financially biased opinion means anything to me. It does not. You do not have the ability to make me happy or unhappy, given my indifference.
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@kenjit Please do not buy these speakers. The Dunning-Kruger effect is running through his veins. |
BTW, everyone, I am not trying to sell you anything or suggest you should buy anything. I am suggesting, if you are in the market, you should listen to the Pulsar2 and the Perspective2. It is just a lead for your consideration from someone deeply satisfied with the Perspective2. |
@audiotroy You have said twice that the Perspective2 are not worth $15K, then mentioned the Personas ten times. Troll. |
Audiotroll, now you are up to 13 |
Audiotroll,
I did not mention the Paradigm Persona speakers. I have not heard them and have nothing to say about them. You just viewed the mention of any other speaker brand as an excuse for invasion.
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It is easy to understand when you hear them. Songs sound better, the lyrics are easier to understand, and notes are cleaner. The very fast opening guitar rift on “Feel it Still” by Portugal. The Man lets you hear each of the notes. @prof you should hear Everything but the Girl. Fink’s Trouble’s What You're In is rich and clean. Amazing guitar and the vocal is the best I have heard it in this system.
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@nyaudio98 We understand your opinion.
@rlb61 The upgrade is an economic decision. The value to you, however, is probably is higher because you are a musician.
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Mellow is not a good word to describe them. They are richer and simultaneously more detailed. They are more accurate and detailed, while being silky smooth and dynamic.
I am not running these with subs because they have plenty of bass, but my guess is the bottom octave rolls off a bit as did the original Perspectives.
I am thrilled with these speakers. I consider the system finished, having followed a number of great suggestions from this website.
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I do not have the technical skill to answer the question with any degree of certainty. What I would suggest is that the 6 inch drivers are slightly more efficient, reducing the relative output of the tweeter by a few dBs.
That however would not account for a few of the major improvements, such as the increase in resolution and fluidity.
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On Easter, I was at my father-in-law’s house helping him set them his Pulsars. Once locked into the room, they sound great. I, however, would recommend the upgrade. On the other hand, he is waiting, but is careful and slow on this type of decision. |
The upgrade cost for the Pulsars is $2300. New driver and crossover. They must be shipped to the factory.
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If the new Pulsar2 are $9K, it depends on how much your original Pulsars generate in net cash, after the AudiogoN fee and how much of the shipping or PayPal fee you absorb. Add shipping to JA in New York.
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@rsf507 The Perspective2 are $15K a pair.
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@prof You mean besides his grammar? |
@nyaudio98 We understand. |
My suggested approach is to ignore him. I become irritated when someone says the same thing more than once.
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There, however, is a kernel of truth here. The Perspective2 are very responsive to upstream electronics and cables. I disagree with the old rules of spending half on speakers and the rest on electronics and cables. I am running more like 3 to 1 in favor of electronics and cables. In my experience, it is hard to find better speakers for my room with my wife. |
If you are impressed with the original Perspective, the Perspective2 may very well cover anything you thought was missing. I am listening right now to one of my wife’s playlists (pop) and love it.
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I would say significant improvement in the bass and, in the midrange a lesser improvement, but enough to make you very happy.
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I agree with both of you. @prof I am suggesting the Perspective2 respond well to the front end. The Conrad amps have always been well-regarded. Someday maybe I will convince you to upgrade you wires.
You hit the bass improvement accurately. I am hearing a greater improvement in the midrange. @goldprintaudio |
It is on Qobuz at 24/96. Sounds very good |
The Absolute Sound just published this: For the past few years, I’ve been impressed with Joseph Audio’s show presentations. I’ve been able to play 15ips tapes (a safety mastertape and transfers from my vinyl) that I use to evaluate music playback on tape decks. The occasional vinyl LP is also played at times during show evaluations in this room. The system has had tube electronics from Doshi Audio and solid-state electronics from Jeff Rowland Design Group driving the speakers (the tape preamp has always been Doshi). This year, Joseph Audio introduced the new Perspective2 Graphene($14,999) speaker. The new speaker is a legitimate upgrade over the Perspective it replaces—I had a very nice technical discussion with Jeff Joseph during a brief overlap of morning breakfast about the level of redesign work he put into this new speaker. This year, I listened exclusively to the digital playback and the system, again, sounded excellent. Each aspect of the sound was captivating and as open as can be in a show environment. Once again, Joseph Audio impressed this listener at another audio show—this time it was the new Perspective2 Graphene—the company must be doing something right.
AJ’s Digital Best of Show:
Best Sound (cost no object): Joseph Audio Perspective2 Graphene with Rowland electronics and Aurendermusic server |
captcha test Good one. Don’t argue with the troll @nyaudio98 |
Back on track: the horizontal off-axis response on the Perspective2s is excellent. My Perspective2s are in a large room used for multiple purposes. They sound great no master where you are sitting, standing or walking around. There sound-the-corner test from “Get Better Sound” passes with high marks.
The reason I mention this is that it is a huge advantage over electrostatic speakers. I love Sound Labs and Sanders 10e, but the sweet spot is very narrow, sometimes like placing your head in a vice. You move half a foot and the SQ is lost.
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BTW, I have owned the USHER AUDIO CP-8571 II DIAMOND. It is a good speaker. The Perspective and the Perspective2 are significantly better. They are in a different league all together.
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@fleschler The fletcher Munson curve (ISO 226:2003) is the primary problem with low level listening. I have no scientific explanation why the perspective2s sound so much louder than the measured 2+ dB. I think this positively impacts lower level listening. Next time I hear is the pearl3s, I will come home and listen to the perspective2s at a similar low level volume and report back. BTW, We purchased an LGOLED TV. You made the right decision but maybe not for the right reason. The LGOLED TV is subject to burn in, similar to the problem plasma TVs experienced.
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My wife was listening to the new Perspective2s today, and I asked for her impression of the difference between the original Perspectives and the Perspective2s. Her reaction was more powerful and clearer.
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The bass is tighter, cleaner and better defined. I doubt this will present a problem for you, but I have no personal experience in that size room. Our room is 18’ x 35’ with 10’ ceilings. |
From the Absolute Sound AXPONA repot on electronics: Best Demos Depends what you’re into...fully immersive, in-the-room presence, or the visceral impact of sonic thrills over transparency? MBL 101 Es or Børreson 05/Aavik Acoustics or the Synergistic Research/Magico/United Home Audio room. The Joseph Audio/Rowland/Cardas Audio room also deserves a nod for fine sound and analog purity. Only the reviewer covering under $20K speakers missed them. |
