I, in fact, have spoken to Anthem. The answer is that there are better internals and dacs. Well that’s a very lame response from a manufacturer if they didn’t go into any more detail than that. I took a look at past Anthem threads and @cbrents73 who works for them has provided more detailed info for other members so maybe he’ll chime in here. If not maybe you can PM him here and get some answers that way. It’s pretty sad that even the mass market brands do a better job disclosing their technologies than Anthem, who you’d think would want their potential customers to know why they’re paying up for their stuff. |
Once again because you continue to not get the point. It’s got nothing to do with the question you asked. You made uninformed, unsubstantiated, conspiracy theory-like assertions that I didn’t let slide because they’re completely bogus and may wrongfully influence people who may not know better than to dismiss them as the useless and paranoid hogwash that they are. I said my front speakers are Khorns, the in-ceiling/rear are Episode and Klipsch RP600m (surround) which are MUCH less efficient than the front two. By your own words, your system is a hodgepodge of disparate speakers. You’re just a victim of your own words here and just refuse to take responsibility for them. some manufacturers (I believe) use the same internals in their receivers as they do their processors. I don’t know but I would bet that many processors are just the company’s receiver without the amps Completely unfounded conspiracy BS. it appears most people cannot tell a difference in the processing quality between the older MRX720 and AVM60. More completely unfounded BS. I’ll bet I could go into an HT enthusiasts theater and swap out his $5000 whatever processor for a Marantz receiver with similar outputs and he’d never know the difference. Just pure ignorance. Yet again, the problem has nothing to do with your initial valid question but rather the absolute crap you’ve been spewing along with it. I’m simply just calling you out on your own words and you don’t like it. Too bad. Just stop spewing it. You’re not getting the answer here so get off your ass and call Anthem who I’m sure will be more than happy to disabuse you of your paranoid beliefs that they use their cheaper receiver parts in their prepros. |
OP. He basically threw shade that I would even ask the stupid question in the first place and said something about my crappy system. I didn’t want to argue but I also won’t be bullied by a fool. Man, you really are dense. And simply holding someone accountable for their own words isn’t bullying. It’s not the question you asked, it was the unfounded, ignorant statements and accusations accompanying your question (that I highlighted above so won’t re-copy that crap here) that I didn’t let pass, and you don’t like being held responsible for your silly statements so you keep pushing it. If you just asked the question without the additional stupidity there wouldn’t be any problem, but if you say something stupid here you best be ready to be called out on it. Or just don’t make any more ignorant, unsupported accusations or assertions, if that’s at all possible for you. |
Good lord, has this chicken pecked anyone else’s toes on here? Only the unfounded, ignorant, and/or conspiracy theory toes. They piss me off. Too many kenjit-like conspiracy commandos around here already and don’t need any more so best to nip it in the bud. It’s way overplayed and tiresome. |
Nice try butthole. I’ve never compared going direct from idevices to a streamer because I don’t have one, so I was looking for input from people who have and if superior I’m buying probably an Innuos Zen Mk3 streamer. My question in no way implies streamers are a ripoff except in your warped little mind trying in some inane way to imply I said something as stupid as you did. I’ll give you this though, you are very good at making wrongheaded, asinine assumptions. If I was you I would’ve said that I believe streamers use cheap components and probably don’t sound any better than going direct from an idevice, but I’m not a paranoid, conspiracy-theory doofus so I didn’t do that. No wonder you bought a separate amp to power surround speakers in an entry-level HT — now it makes sense. Have fun wasting even more money on an Anthem product of any type for your mediocre, hodgepodge little system that won’t even know the difference. A fool and his money...
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Also, some manufacturers (I believe) use the same internals in their receivers as they do their processors. That’s a statement, not a question. It’s negative, ignorant, and accusatory. A question would be: “Do some manufacturers use the same parts in the prepro sections of their AVRs in their AVPs?” That’s a worthwhile and legitimate question while yours is just a completely uninformed, pigheaded statement. See the difference? |
Ah, the old “I’m rubber you’re glue” defense. Good one, in third grade. I’ve denigrated no one — just merely pointed out inconsistencies and unfounded statements while trying to stop you from unnecessarily wasting $$$. Guilty, but I can see how someone with insecurities and limited knowledge could interpret that as denigrating. Learning is sometimes painful. |
To be clear, given the level of your system I think you’d be fine with the MRX520 or the RX-A2080, and again I’d recommend you save 1000 bucks and get the Yammy. The problem was you implying the AVPs are way overpriced and may be just repackaged AVRs minus the amps without any credible evidence. If you’re gonna suggest something like that here you should provide facts and not hearsay from a couple dudes on some crappy website. Peace out.
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@soix the amp is to offer more clean power to get the dynamics and volume needed from my other speakers to match the Khorn.
Klipsch tend to be extremely efficient speakers and typically don’t need much power at all. IMO and especially for HT you probably wasted your $ on a separate amp as most any decent AVR has plenty of power for those speakers. Like I said before, just sell your amp and buy a Yamaha RX-A2080 (or even a 1080 would be fine for your speakers and save you even more $) from accessories4less — I’m sure you’ll be thrilled and have $1000+ more cash in your pocket. The Yammy has plenty of clean power for your Klipsch, and since preamps apparently don’t matter spending more on the MRX740 would be a stupid waste of money in your case. Just trying to help here, and best of luck. |
Why do I need the amp? Because I want to send clean power to my other speakers to help them keep up with the Klipschorn mains. What happened to “why so high-end for my little Klipsch surround speakers stuck in weird corners behind my head?” So, the amp is important for these less consequential speakers but the preamp not so much? I don’t get the contradiction. Preamps matter just as much as amps, at least in my experience. it appears most people cannot tell a difference in the processing quality between the older MRX720 and AVM60. Based on what data? Have you spoken to “most people,” and how would you even know when that’s the case? I’ll bet I could go into an HT enthusiasts theater and swap out his $5000 whatever processor for a Marantz receiver with similar outputs and he’d never know the difference. Just a bet. Well then why are you even here asking if you should buy an AVR or AVP? And yeah, I’d take that bet that I could tell the difference between a transparent, neutral, quality AVP like the AVM70 and the relatively softer, rolled-off treble and overripe mids of a Marantz AVR any day of the week and twice on Sunday. some manufacturers (I believe) use the same internals in their receivers as they do their processors. I don’t know but I would bet that many processors are just the company’s receiver without the amps Yes, it’s obviously yet another conspiracy where manufacturers risk their hard-earned reputations by stuffing absurdly overpriced AVPs with inexpensive parts from their AVRs to pad their profits and pull one over on the poor, stupid, gullible HT enthusiasts. Gimme a break already. Just buy the AVR and laugh all the way to the bank thinking you’re too smart to get taken by the malicious and underhanded HT profit agenda. |
Seems like a lot to play a soundtrack that is already far over bloated, eq'd, and digitized to begin with - through my tv's HDMI. Like, why so high-end for my little Klipsch surround speakers stuck in weird corners behind my head? You would never spend an extra $1000 on a preamp for your nice in-wall 2ch system. Really begs the question why you’d buy a separate multichannel amp? Why would you spend that much on amp channels where “most of the speakers are either crap, in wall, or behind your head”? Seems like an AVR is really all you ever needed so not sure why you wasted all that money on a separate amp. And yeah, an AVP is a probably a waste of $ in your situation as you’re apparently not looking for a really high-end HT system. In fact, you’d probably be better off selling your amp and just buying a Yamaha RX-A2080 that’s great and you can get for $1500 at accessories4less.com. I know I know, you always hear the processors use better parts and I get that. But, on movies/surround, how much does that really matter? If you’re asking that question you really don’t need a prepro. |
