Network Acoustics Eno Streaming System vs SGC Optical Isolation System

simple seems to sound best”

@mitch2  👍

+2 😊

Charles

@sns

With close to audio system setup I can use my already installed dedicated power lines, power conditioner, also running network components on separate AC lines may promote noise from ground loops, generally we want all components in audio system to be on same circuit, less noise with grounding potential differences. I’ve tried modems/routers and/or LPS on different AC lines, diminished sound quality, although this could have been attributed to other variables.

This approach is eminently logical.

Charles

@amtprod 

Is it better to have both the cable modem and the wifi router as close to your equipment as possible, or should the two be separated some distance?

There is not a consensus regarding this. Some very knowledgeable audio streamers advocate close proximity to the audio system and others advocate remote separation.Both sides report excellent sonic outcomes. Once again, implementation is key.

Charles

@lalitk 

Thanks.

@lalitk 

Are similar noise reduction connectors used for the Muon products?
Charles  

@sns ​​​​@lalitk 

I appreciate both of your comments and impressions. Both of you speak from genuine hands on and listening experiences. As has been readily understood, much of this is individual circumstances influenced. So naturally different solutions for varying situations.

I have a 2 story (4600SF) plus  a finish basement (3rd level) where my audio system resides. My modem and separate router are in a 1st floor library. Bill (grannyring) has suggested a high quality modem/router combo unit and this is very appealing for me. Broadcom chip rather than Intel chip (sns 😊).

I am leaning toward this combo unit in my audio room connected via the Muon filter system to the audio streaming component (Yet to be chosen). This for for me would be a very simple yet effective and clean ethernet network circuit. My thought is the Muon is sufficient and would eliminate the need for a switch (Which entails another box/LAN cable/LPS/power cable). I just prefer simple.😊

Charles

@sns I’ve conducted a ton of network experiments. Long ethernet cables not the way to go, long coax, short ethernet best,

I have heard from others making this same recommendation. And yet others suggesting long Ethernet cable runs such as @lalitk . As is typical for High End audio, a variety of ways to skin the cat. I recognize each can be very successful depending upon the circumstances. Audio streaming is a prime example of alternative roads leading toward a destination.

Charles

@maurice89 

👍

Charles

@maurice89 

Already, the sound is so much more natural. I was anxious it wouldn't do a big difference, it's counter intuitive to spend so much money on an ethernet filter

Congratulations with your successful outcome.

Counter intuitive? It seems very logical and intuitive to me. Given all of the attention and concern with regard to Network noise/contamination, an effective passive filter is a rational solution. Actually it seems that it’d be more useful than a switch. I’m interested to read about your upcoming encounter with a network switch. The Muon appears to be the real deal.

Charles

@sns 

You comments about ISP made me curious as my provider is Xfinity. They offer a modem/router tri-band 1 GB unit called XFi Advanced Gateway manufactured by Technicolor. I assume that this may be similar to your unit. 
Charles

@sns 

I appreciate your insightful perspective. Certainly food for thought.

Charles

@lalitk 

Thank you very much for the additional information.

Charles

@lalitk 

The MUON filter system  has received really excellent reviews and owner feedback. I wonder how the “Pro” version is presumably better in a home audio system environment. IOW what’s to be gained in a practical day to day sense?

Charles

What are the similarities/differences between what those passive filters are doing vs. what the Network Acoustics passive filters are doing? Are they all basically the same sonically, or are there actual sonic differences rather than simply marketing differences?

Yep! Always the question with audio products. Sorting out the facts versus persuasive hype and hyperbole.

Charles

@sns

I much appreciate your reply and explanation of your network path solutions. I am strongly leaning toward the Newtwork Acoustics (Probably their MUON filtering system) as an effective network noise suppressor. It’s very straightforward and by many accounts, very successful at its job. A less expensive filter alternative is the SotM ISO CAT-7.

Charles

@lalitk 

Thank you.

Charles

Has anyone here had the opportunity to compare the Network Acoustics ENO and MUON in direct comparison or within a familiar audio system? Both seem to be very worthy  products and I’m curious as to the performance gap between them. That they’re passive filters is appealing. 
Charles

@sns 

Is your Netgear a modem/router combo unit or is it a stand alone router? Is it in close proximity to your server/streaner or distant and remote. Location?

Charles