Hotel California better for ADA...see what I can do
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gpgr4blu and ctsooner..ok most of the planets are back in alignment.....fly out to the Emerald City and we can get high on balsa wood and a few decent Davis Family Wines...nothing high technology or innovative about them....I know they have email....that is how i order it....
right now I have JJ Cale cranked up a bit....loving it...
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and again Audiotroy....pretty much anybody can build a composite driver, as I stated before tge balsa core is unique and innovative. IF you knew anything about end grain balsaand and the extreme difficulty of getting it to bond with pre-preg, then you might reconsider your ignorant comments.
i ran the most advanced composite shop on the planet...we built simple stuff like B-2 wings and structures, F-22 wings, 787 fuselages.....but hey you keep challenging me on composites......might feel good for you....but in the end, you are wrong...period....Vandersteen has the patents and as previously pointed out trade secrets - you have what ??????
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hificrazed
dont lose faith, you enjoy your music and your great speakers !!!!
this thread long ceased to be about your speakers and a particular bit of NAIM kit.
this thread is about running down the accomplishments of a great engineer, designer and American businessman because the dealer for your speakers has a very local competitor who sells Richards product.
it is that simple
i would just skip this thread
maybe start your own tgread about the virtues of your system, room and of course your speakers...
peace brother
and enjoy the music..
btw I have a very nice Jackson Browne album on with an el cheapo bottle of red vino from Portugal - sublime..... |
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disclosure ?
i worked at 2 Audio retailers in North and Central Ohio starting in 1978 thru 1995, to make it easy to identify my alleged bias I will list as many of the speaker brands we carried:
Theil, Audio Analyst, Shahinian, Freid, KEF including all the reference series as well as all the kits and individual drivers, The Speaker Company kits - we had our own microcomputer based FFT and hired a few Phd / Faculty from OSU to help with crossover engineering..., Quad, Soundlab, Beveridge, Acoustat, Wilson, Infinity ( everything but the mighty IRS ), ADS, DCM, Apogee, and yes Vandersteen
7 showrooms on 3 floors when i left....
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gpgr4 blu
stop by any time for that wonderful listening session - music matters... i have some 100 year old vine Zin layed away for just such an event !!!!!!
grace
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oh
and the dealership I managed had the WP, i never sold a pair....i can hear 15 k and above....
but i love love love the fact that Dave Wilson drives a Ferrari....
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you also seem deaf
i mentioned i would seek out a pair of the ELAC this week, i already own the Atom
its good but 2 dimensional, but i only have 50 hours on it
The Adante is like a cheeseburger to me
so we shall see......
i will give em a fair shake
something with your ever shifting definitions of innovation, revolution, “ true innovation” fail to do
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you seem confused between innovation, revolution and evolution
you should go back and read what i wrote
as for the Giya, of course i have heard them....for hours at a dealer mere minutes from our California home...
i recall buying a SOTA table from him....another made in America innovation......
of course the Giya is a magical sounding speaker....
revolutionay decor for sure....
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you are not noble enough to acknowlege innovation
stop calling me fanboy
my comments relate to innovation and technical accomplishments which you immaturely deride
of course i enjoy my speakers
get it thru your head i am not running down any of your choices or designers....
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no sense arguing with the technically incompetent
a tapered enclosure solve a different problem than an aerodynamic magnet structure..
of course you are claiming that the patent office got it wrong, while citing a bunch of patents pending...might want to rethink that..
as for pistonic, becoming easy to measure, versu claim with recent German advances in laser technology - nice utube video of the 7 driver vs a “ claimer” with 10% out of phase trash
as for balsa, you claim no innovation there - prove that with facts....
you get end grain high density balsa to adequately bond to CF reinforced epoxy resin without core crush and I will fly out and pay your patent fees....but as it turns out you have invented what ????
get off the hate, acknowledge the innovation, say it aint your cup of tea....but for intelligent customers you come off as an unprintable word...
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Audiotroy you have departed from logic and reason into hate
your patent search is flat out wrong - there are at least 3 including dbs, aerodynamic midrange and a few other things - are some shared ? well certainly - what else would you expect from an innovator with 37 years of collaborating with leaders in Indusrty - notably Low at Audioquest, and HRS, etc..
i have some experience with innovation, technology, and the worldwide protection of intellectual property ( at the largest and best Aerospace company in the world )
saying the word composite is meaningless...you only reveal your ignorance
of course even the largest, mighty and deep pocketed firms in the world do not patent everything - google trade secret and you might learn something....
as for fanboy, perhaps....but i own and listen to some 8 or 9 pairs of speakers, including a nice set of Apogee Planar and some horns ....
i hear live music every week, have a nice high speed mobile rack, ribbon microphones and know what microphone feeds sound like...
run your product UP
dont run others down
good life lesson for ya
signing off
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motberg
Alan Jones at HiFi Buys in Atlanta has all three brands, good sense and ears...call him or better yet stop in
i will give him a jingle also
i have bought a decent sportscar worth of stuff from him over the years....i need to say hello
he has Totem, PSB, and a few other brands....
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motberg
no not that model.....but so far not a fan of cabinets that ring like a bell....
but Hawthorne Stereo is our highly respected local dealer and i have reason to drop in this week
they are also a NAIM dealer, so hoping they have a pair to listen to..
i would ignore the poor and dated analogy from a dealer running down other product.....especially one who fails to understand the significant technical innovations past, present and ongoing by Vandersteen, Magnepan...and yes of course others....
the model 2 could be thought of as just the latest iteration of the venerable old beater Porsche 911..
and i laugh as I go sailing by and hit the apex.... |
lots of well engineered products made in usa available at that pricepoint - two come to mind as standouts: Magneplanar, Vandersteen
go listen ! |
