Modern EL34s VS NOS Winged C - and return policies?
A couple questions for the tube veterans here:
1. If I buy a new set of premium tubes and they sound fine but just don’t have the magic I’m after, can I usually return them?
2. What current-production EL34 comes closest to the NOS Svetlana SED Winged C?
My setup:
• Sonore ultraRendu streamer
• Gustard R26 DAC
• PrimaLuna EVO 400 preamp
• PrimaLuna EVO 300 power amp
• PureAudioProject Trio15 Classics
I’ve rolled Tung-Sol KT150s, KT120s, Gold Lion KT88s, the stock PrimaLuna tubes, and NOS Svetlana SED Winged C EL34s. The SEDs absolutely destroy the others in soundstage and holography — it’s not subtle. I often struggle to hear big differences between DACs and streamers, but the SEDs are jaw-dropping.
I’m tempted to sell off all my other tubes and double down on EL34s, but I worry a new set might not have the same magic. I’m also willing to pay for another set that does.
Any thoughts on modern EL34 alternatives or experiences dealing with tube dealers who are sympathetic to nutcases like me? Thanks!
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I can't disagree with you. My only experience with Tung Sol KT150's was in an overpriced, crappy, US made integrated. It was red. Not that I'm naming names:) The best they sounded was they day I boxed them up to trade it in. Conversely, the best power tubes I've owned were NOS Shuguang 6L6GC "coke bottle" (circa 1970's I believe). They did sound great as soon as they warmed up. All fun stuff but I've simplified things with a SS amp and tube sources; DAC and phono stage that both use 12AX7's. |
@whiteknee IMO original Tesla EL34s are a great sounding tube. I have two small amps that can run EL34s. My Inspire KT-88 can also run 6L6, 6550, KT-66, 77, 88, 120, etc. I have pairs of St Pete SED S, Winged C EL34s, Tesla, RFT, GE and Sovtek 6CA7s (American EL34 equivalent). The Teslas have that warm, rich, midrange, are balanced, with a touch of treble roll off, and good bass response. IMO, second only to the St Pete Svets. The Svets have a little more treble extension and perhaps bigger soundstage, although in a blind A/B probably difficult to distinguish the two. RFTs brighter, edgier, with less warmth in the midrange. 6CA7s are more balanced than all of the above, almost clinical transparency without richness, like a studio monitor! GL KT-77 are also super balanced but with a touch more musicality. NOS Svets and Tesla rule in my two rigs. |
The best El34 current issue tubes I've tried or hear are the PSVane EL-34 PH (Phillips reissue). A great Chinese source for 4 matched tubes $292 is https://www.jjyaudio.com/productview.asp?sid=9030 Helen is great to deal with. US based dealers will charge about $450 to $500 for a matched quad |
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