My last and one of the more powerful creation to change the negative acoustical obstruction of a bad room’s topology....
" The Golden Strings"
I put 2 ribbon of copper self adhesive tape (13 inches long) with 40 micro Herkimer diamonds on each ribbon, glued them on each side of my Bell of bells each one dangling from the ceiling in the center of the room ....Each ribbon is centered face to the speakers...
Astounding increase in soundstage and better high frequencies difffusion in all the room, then NO MORE link between the sound and the speakers location, and no problem with my bad room topology and the bad location of one speaker near the wall and in a corner...
I am so flabbergasted that if i was reading my own thread i will not believe it myself...
In my 2 positions of listening the sound encompass me...
The reason is that the direct waves from the speakers are now so reinforced in comparison to the indirect waves coming from the room walls and furnitures, that i created a more"informed wave" for the brain to decode and more easily decoded, because of the Bell of cones in the center of the room, and the grid of cones on my Twin Fans enhancer, that work like stable BEACONS with the "Golden Strings" on the flowing waves of sound in the room....These fixed points or beacons made easy for the brain his Fourier analysis of the waves....The Herkimer diamonds also transform the waves by resonance with them....
This is a description of what i experience not an explanation, nor science.... I could not wait for an engineer to say what i must do to create sound heaven, and i could not pay him anyway... And no acoustician i know of advise his customers to do these ACTIVE acoustical room controls by far.... But it is a total success...Passive treatment are different and necessary but way less powerful....They do not reinforce the direct waves in relation to the indirect and reflexive one and this is my explanation....
Speakers design is most of the times if not always secondary to acoustic controls .... This is very well proven for me now....
I dont know if more than 2 or 3 people read this completely insane thread of mine, but i hope to be useful to at least one....
Cost of the "Golden String" : under ten dollars for the 80 herkimer diamonds from China (3 gram)
If i say peanuts cost no one will contradict me..... :)
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I am conscious that my experiments are too unorthodox, and not so much esthetically acceptable to be for all...By the way i am very creative but not very skillfull with my hands....
But my point was not esthetic but sound quality...
And this is complete success...
I am conscious that people believe that was is costly has value, fishing cone bells for 1 dollars has no value....
But forget the money and trust your ears, the rest is without any importance....
What is the goal?
A very beautiful audio system in a beautiful room?
Forget my thread then...
A low cost audio system in a low cost acoustically treated room rightfully embed?
Read my thread....
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UPDATE Twin Fans sound combing room enhancers
Errors or mistakes are sometimes good for creativity, and anyway go with it...
I ordered on amazon by mistake 30 "mei neng fish tackles".... They are not bell shape cones... )
But they are long cones like tube , and i used them in my fans, around the connected bell shape connected cones grid in the center, without connecting them and without Herkimer diamonds in them....They work like a tube and i dont want to block the little hole in their center....
And guess what:
Increase on all S.Q. count , but especially a bigger soundstage in my 2 listenings position without any loss on timbre, imaging or dynamic, in fact an improvement on all....
This times if i think about my past experiments for the last 2 years, i must change the % of S.Q. attributed to the 3 embeddings....
The acoustical active devices worked so powerfully that they are the main S.Q. improvement at the end in % term....
I dont suffer now from my room accidental limitations...
Really there is no speakers that are good in a bad room... Except perhaps 10,000 dollars one can give this illusion and are the reason why people buy that and put them in a room without any acoustical passive controls or on few, and no active controls at all...But trust me good speakers in a treated room sound on par with costly one....
I dont know but in a word i cannot imagine a much, much better sound that what i own now.... Understand me, there is plenty of audio system better than mine, but for the price, trust me, anybody will want and will choose mine....Ratio price/quality is the balance and when you listen to music you forget the minors improvements that will come only with a big amount of money invested ....
I’m proud to have freed myself from the prison of my audiophile desires and obsession and gives to me the gift of the music i dreamed about for myself years ago....
Dont buy anything if not necessary, think, and embed everything, especially the speakers....
:)
I only hope that reading about some of my experiments some newcomers will go with the road of listenings/creative experiments instead of throwing their money with too much hope in "generic" electronic new components, and no knowledge at all about the "specifics" of the 3 embeddings necessities.... Thats all....
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UPDATE: My ultimate Cable connections of all my grids
I just add a fifth thin phone copper cable to the dangling "Bell of bells" from my ceiling, parallel to the other last cable i have add, to another Schuman generator beside another one already connected today to the same Bell....
Audible effect immediately evident, a decoupling of the speakers TOTALLY from the sound image.... Before that i was speaking of an holographic image detached from the speakers, but this times it was a very complete detachment indeed...
The reader must understand that BEFORE the change, nobody can consider and envision the depth of the changes... This explain why i repeat all along my posts the same increasing changes with the same words.... all my device controls and experiments add something new one step at a time..... At the end the sound has no more relation with the few months before.... I even said to my wife 3 months ago, " i think i am done with my inventions and i cannot increase the S.Q. no more"....She does not believe me even if i believe it myself when i said it....
You are like me with your audio system unconscious of what it can really gives at his optimal working level when the 3 embeddings are relatively on controls, especially the acoustic active controls of the room, key to the speakers revelation and not only the passive one....
I hope the best for you all..... Music heals....
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Dont buy anything, be creative, even with sarcasms....
I wish you the best.... |
Several authentic Alexander Calder mobiles hung strategically from different spots on the ceiling make a world of difference to my listening experience. |
UPDATE: My ultimate Cable connections of all my grids
I just made a fourth connectionwith thin phone cable to another set of Schumann Generators from the dangling "Bell of bells" in the center of my room...
Almost all my S.G. are connected by thin phone cables now to the twin fans and to some cones grid and to some grid of stones....
Except for a very costly designed acoustical room, the way to go for all of us is with passive treatment of the room... But this passive treatment CANNOT replace the active controls i created with the grid of modified and cabled Schumann generators and my other grids and cones resonators....
Each room with difficult dimensions and some other particularities will present many obstacles, then passive treatment only will be unsufficient and ven with many resonators ( my singing resonators and the Helmholtz one)....We must try with many more active resonators and active Schumann generators all connected....
Results were better with each connections...And 4 small audible increase in S.Q. at the end create an astounding effect....
Takes with a grain of salt my qualifying adjectives all along the way, but not my final results.... There is NO relation between the S.Q. of these same electronic components i own all along these series of experiments from the beginning to the end results....No comparison.... My self confidence comes from that, and i can say most people dont know the real S. Q. potential of their own audio system by too much lack of controls in their three embeddings....
My sound heaven is in 2 form: nearfield 3 feet and at 8 feet from the speakers, with an astounding holographic imaging decoupled from the speakers....No degradation of timbre or dynamics, except if i connect it in a wrong manner .... We cannot make it without listening experiments, because each audio room is different, but my devices will work in any irregular small room...
My best to all....
Audio heaven cost peanuts..... Dont upgrade, embed it all..... :)
Dont trust anyone except your wife and your ears.. :) |
denverfred
I use self adhesive copper tape on the shungite.... The copper tape is always at the external side of the shungite, namely the shungite face always touch any location where i put it all along the electrical grid.... For pyramid, but it is not practical and i dont use them much, i cover with copper tape all faces of the pyramid except the base; then it is the basis of the pyramid that is in contact to the gear or objets where i put it.... Please ask your questions here and report here.... I wish you the best |
UPDATE:
When i connected the thin phone cable between the "Bell of bells" and the Schumann generator it gives better results sometimes if the cable touch directly the S.G. instead of a stone or an herkimer diamond on the S.G....On some my cable touch the stone....
You must experiment not only with materials but with your ears...
Sometimes the audible changes are subtle , but when you love it very much, you speak with adjectives like awsome, marvellous, etc The essential is that with this one hundred subtle changes i lived through i own now a top audio system, not the best there is by all counts no, but people would think that for the money(500 bucks for the 3 main component) my system is one of the best there is... And i think so....
It is the reason WHY i am the only voice on all audio forums i ever read to say that audiophile experience MAY cost peanuts, if you dare to try being creative with your listenings experience.... If i could, anyone can....
I give to you all the concepts: the three embeddings...(mechanical,electrical active and passive acoustical controls) Any electronic component is "generically" created design,but to gives his utmost , it must be "specifically" embed....
I give to you some ideas in my thread to replicate with your own improvisation on the basis of your own audio systen, your own house and room and ears...And with more money invested if you want and better results than mine....
I give to you the confidence that it is possible because i made it...
I am proud of myself....
Thanks for reading with patience my not so modest bragging but it is for your own good not only mine....
:)
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UPDATE: My ultimate Cable connections of all my grids This morning i just connected the most costly and refine Schumann Generator i own among the ten already connected ,one with another around the room; i connected this more powerful one which is over my computer screen, between my speakers, to the "Bell of bells" dangling from my ceiling... This is the third connection from the "Bell of bells" with a third Schumann generator in the grid that link all of them...
Staggering increase all across imaging, and the other factors of sound quality...
My dear friends, the only way to modify the properties of a bad room, is not mainly the passive acoustical treatment, but really and mostly the active acoustical controls by way of active connected device like an array of Schumann generators...
The audible effect is at the end a COMPLETE deconnection of the sound from the location of the speakers themselves and from the negative limitations of the room...
Astounding and what is the cost: PEANUTS...
Be creative and dont read those who want to sell you something....
Before buying something, embed everything rightfully....
:)
I will go back to heaven now.....
NOTE:
All my 10 Schuman generators are modified with cables that connect them all and with crystals and "golden plate"... They are cheap cost, 10 bucks from Hong-Kong, except one at 50 bucks.... It is not a good idea to buy only one at very high cost.... Because an array of 10 cheap one around the room and connected is more flexible device and more powerful than only very pricier one....Their power supplies or USB connectors are also treated with "golden plates" or crystals to lower the noise floor...
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UPDATE:
My ultimate Cable connections of all my grids
This connection between all these grids in fact confirm the separation of the music from the speakers... It is true in nearfield or at distant position...
This is marvellous and the cost of this is: Peanuts....
Hi-Fi cost way more less than i was thinking 7 years ago.... It is no more at least over 10,000 dollars, the final cost is PEANUTS...
Dont buy if not necessary and Think before buying..... |
Next experiments coming soon:
Springs for my speakers, keeping my sandwiches in place under the speakers, i will put the springs directly on the sandwiches and under the speakers, then i will be able to take off the 70 pounds of concrete that was damping the speakers... I think the springs will made them no more useful.... Springs will controls the resonance better....
And last but not least, 12 new "golden plates" for the electrical grid....
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My ultimate Cable connections of all my grids I was using very thin copper telephone cable and i connected my grid of stones and crystals, some grids of cones bells, the grid of Schumann generators, the " twin fans" to the central "Bell of Bells" dangling from my ceiling and in the middle of the room....
All is now connected, it was not the case before....
And wow! improved imaging and separation and especially better dynamic, all music are better....
I now had create for myself the proof that ACTIVE acoustics controls exceed the effective power of transformation of the S.Q. than the controls used for the 2 others embeddings, the mechanical, and the electrical...
Passive acoustical controls cannot be replaced by active one, but passive materials will never gives to the sound the living quality of real sound... A perfect accurate sound reproduction in a room is not synonymus with "living" holographic sound quality.... Passive controls work toward a more perfect sound, diverse connected active resonators work toward a more "living" sound... A greek theater for example enhance the sound and his ends was not to gives first more perfect sound but more living one....
Non connected resonators like my Helmholtz bottles or my singing chip metal resonators are passive resonators .... Cones bells with herkimer diamonds. connected to 10 Schuman generators are active one...
I hope this is clear for all...
I will go back to music..... |
Magister Thanks.
I'm thinking on the whole concept of "placebos." Must do some reading to get into the mix of opinion/research.
Horrors! Can one become a "placebophile"? Hard to define something that, by definition, doesn't exist.
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Thanks for this almost "unique" confirmation of my experiments....
You must put a copper tape on the external side of the shungite plate to optimize his impact and works with less negative effects....
A pyramid of shungite is not very practical most of the times...( except for feet good idea!) I prefer plate...Thin one for connector and big one for the different locations all along the electrical grid....
I use "golden plates" all along my electrical grid with great success ( 30 plates perhaps)... I wait for 12 more in the next weeks...." 2 plates for example behind each speakers electronics and connectors)
I appreciate your feed back....
My deepest regards....
I apologize for my lack of patience with sarcasm.... :)
My only excuse is english is not my first language....Sometimes i miss some clues... :) |
Want to report that adding a shungite brick above my mains panel and putting 5X7 tiles on my AC power distribution components (among the source component connectors) has lowered noise levels considerably. It is particularly noticeable on my TV, which shares AC distribution (through a cheap old Shunyata cable) with my source components. Enabled me to take all picture controls to off or neutral--especially black level, which is now excellent without additional boost. Initially, I tried shungite tiles stacked between my DAC and my Apple TV. The sonic result was a great improvement in both sound and picture on youTube classical music sites with slight softening in the upper mids. I'm running all digital (Qobuz) and thought at first that I had solved the occasional digital hash problem for good. At Magister's suggestion, I moved the tiles to treat AC only and was able to regain detail without losing most of the smoothness that I was looking for. Now experimenting with shungite pyramids upside-down under my CD player using pre-1982 pennies (95% copper) as feet under the pyramid peaks. Hard to tell what comes from the materials and what comes from having the unit up on points. Ain't placebos great? (Easy Magister, I'm being sarcastic.) Film at 11:00.
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UPDATE:
My new active controls method for room acoustic is a continuation of my "twin fans combing sound room enhancer"....
I am not a scientist at all.... Only an ordinary guy who listen carefully with "ordinary" hearing capacity for my age , but with learned hearing abilities over the mean population, being a lover of music and an audiophile for the last 7 years, and consciously so for the last 2 years....
My last experiment is so successful that i discover truly amazing facts...
In a word, i connect with very thin phone cable the 2 twin fans, with their cones grids of 2 different size on the enclosure with Herkimer diamond at their center...
After connecting the 2 twin fans and the 2 size of cones bells on them with cables, i connected the 2 twins fans cones bells grids to 2 Schumann generators, themselves connected all around my room to the other 8 one....
The upgrading S.Q. was an increase of all factors and aspect of sound qualities...
I am flabbergasted indeed...
Now what this means?
This means that PASSIVE room acoustical controls has some limitations to correct the room , especially irregular and small room...
ACTIVE acousticals controls are revolutionary in S. Q. terms ...
The human ears not only read direct and indirect sound coming from the speakers and the room, but we can use some connected active resonators to help the ears/brain to free themselves from the limitations of the room itself...
The ears/brain not only PASSIVELY READ the room but can ACTIVELY TRANSLATE the limitations of the room and transmutating them in some other space totally....
Wow! i will repeat that:
The ears/brain not only PASSIVELY READ the room but can ACTIVELY TRANSLATE the limitations of the room and transmutating them in some other space totally....
This is my last discovery.....
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My new active controls method for room acoustic is a continuation of my "twin fans combing sound room enhancer"....
I will not speak in details about it for the moment.... Many new readers will think i am crazy, after many past readers think that already anyway...
I will describe it later for sure, i dont fear other’s opinion....
But even for me it is difficult to imagine that change and how it works....
If so, acoustic is not what acousticians think it is, It is way more than they think....
One thing is sure my adio system increase in S.Q. another notch today...
It is very easy to verify for me, it takes almost a minute of listening.... I verified after this first amazing minute for many hours with many files i know perfectly well and files which i know how they are supposed to sound in my room....
i am amazed ....
Acoustic active devices are almost half of my S. Q. now...
The rest is passive treatment of the room, + the 2 other embeddings...
I will post photos in the near future to describe my "twin fans" modifications....
I am too old to start a career in acoustical audio.... :)
Alas!
But i can treat myself at least.....
Enjoy music....
«Life is shorter than the long dying breath of a dragon .»-Groucho Marx
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You dont know how fantastic your audio system really is...
I was like that....
It takes me the last 2 years to know that...
Most will read that like if was boasting about my system.... Not at all...
My system is low or mid-fi at most, very well chosen but not High End ...
I dont want to boast about brand names, for me it is illusory, there exist many, many good brand, with their weaker points and stronger one...
The question is: HOW DO YOU HAVE EMBEDDED IT ?
Think about that, especially newcomers, not brainwashed by the upgrading motto.....
I am really happy....I wish the same for all.....
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I think the waves of direct sound and refracted sound in a room are an extension of the ears/brain, the waves of sound in the room are like an extension of the ears sensing organs and linked to the working creative interpretation of the music by the brain...( the imaging of the music scenery for example is a reconstruction by the brain linked to the" perceived" acoustical room like in echolocation )
The cones bells grids wrapped with copper tape on my wall, on the fans enclosures centers, on my speakers, on my computers screens, are like passive and stable beacons and tags located all along the fixed banks of a flowing river ( with different waves of sound conflicting with each others)... The ears/brain use these beacons to recreate the music image that is flowing with the waves...
But for sure the cones bells of different size are also tiny resonators, like the herkimer diamond (H.D. ) in their center, and their diameter, their composition materials, even the dimension of the H. D. all that play also a big role and they change the relation between direct sound wave and refracted sound waves .... They are not only passive beacons then, but also active players in the acoustical field....
I am not a scientist this is just metaphors to convey my experience....
:)
One thing is for sure, acoustics is not a simpler science than electronic design science at all.... |
Update
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
My friends audio experiments are very instructive, and sometimes amazing, bordering to the incredible...
In a room where many active controls device are already in place, for example in mine, many "grids of cones bells", the "bell of bells", Schumann generators grid, helmholtz bottles, etc In this kind of room 2 simple bands of copper tape 8 inches each long, wrapped around the cone bells grid in the center of the fans enclosure (12 cones 2 big and 10 small one all with herkimer diamonds in center) will make an enormous difference....
I wrapped the copper tape in first experiment, around all the cones grid in the center enclosure of each fan including the 2 big cones....
In a second experiments i only wrapped around the little 10 cones without including the 2 big one....
Results: the second experiments gives a better results but the difference that two 8 inches long wrapping tape around some cones can produce if wrapped around some cones and not around some others are staggering....
ACOUSTIC dictate the ultimate S.Q. more than electronic design in most cases.....
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Update:
My " Bell of bells"
is a marvellous acoustical device for a room and works marvel for me.... Cost : to low to be describe.....30 bucks in all perhaps...
The bill Charlap trios that i discover last week sound more natural and the imaging i thanks to be very good to date was lacking, because now it is wonderful more than a bit more...
WE NEVER KNOW WHAT WE LACK UNTIL WE GRAB IT FIRST..... This must be a LAW in audio hobby....
on par with this first law:
Dont upgrade anything before embedding everything rightfully....
Before making too much other laws i will go back to music, because everything is new again....
Another law:
When all is new again, it is a new step, but probably not the last one....
:)
I quit now, my best.....
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The readers of this thread must be conscious that the S.Q. increase i speak about in these posts of mine, were win one inch at a time, and despite my hyperboles and exclamations, it was really one inch at a times...
Then it is the sum of all my controls experiments, in the electrical grid and in the acoustical embeddings, that gives to me the results of the last day....
There is no ready made tweak someone can buy adressing all problems in the 3 embeddings and solving them all...
There is none of my device or ideas that cando the same miraculous feat and solve all problem...
But boy! it was fun and it is fun to listen, create, and increase the S.Q.
I will repeatmyself, a great audiophile experience does not need to cost big money at all, it is a myth, and a reluctant, inadvertant, accidental lie by some.... Thats all.... |
Update :
The " Bell of bells"...
It is in the center of my room ,dangling stable from the ceiling at the center of the room...
It is a bell, 2 inches diameter , around it 2 layers of cones bell (fishing alaskan cones) in which i have glued some herkimer diamonds... But i put only half of them with H.D. i was lacking diamonds at the times and it is working well like that....
Now i put H.D. in all of the cones bells...
Audible effect in near listening and regular position, good on all counts...Better imaging mainly and better dynamic....
Wow...
i was just thinking that there is no more i could do....
But my last order of herkimer diamonds just arrived, perhaps300 .... :) At peanuts costs....I must keep it a secret but shungite and herkimer diamond are very powerful tools for me , the others rocks, minerals or crystals, were useful, but these 2 break the bank when you know how to use them....
My best to all....
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Thanks for your toughtful kindness and words...
I only try with very low cost means if it is possible to experience a more than only good S.Q.
It is possible, and i want to communicate this possibility...
but everyone will develop it for himself with his own imagination...
Only one law will stay:
Dont upgrade anyything before embedding everything rightfully...
Audio S.Q. is not only caused by good improved electronic design, it is easy to buy some good electronic design; Audio S.Q. comes from a rightful methodical experiments in the 3 embeddings of any audio system...
My best to you..... |
mahgister,
i just read through most of this thread. Quite the Journey. I am a fan of maximizing what you have. I have replaced many of the internal components within my audio gear with better quality and found the results to be worthwhile. I may try some of these tweaks as well. Mostly I just wanted to say one of my goals in life is to be a consummate gentleman- a goal you have clearly already reached. Thanks for being a benchmark for the rest of us.
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Update
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
In audio listening experiments are the ONLY way....
I made a mistake replacing the 2 little herkimer diamonds stick on the 2 fans in front of the speakers by some nano one...
The little one seems to gives more details but the sound is less well textured in de mid frequencies...There is no more details with them, it is an illusion... Then i replace by the 2 H.D. sticks... Immediate relief the sound very well textured in the mids frequencies the most... No lost anywhere...Evident comparison with the same files with bass piano and xylophone...(Renee Rosnes trio "beloved of the sky")
That was the good initial formula....
Question to all : Why the replacement of 2 nano H.D. by 2 sticks 3/4 inch makes a so great audible impact in a room?
Dont work too hard to answer....
The professional passive negative one will have already their unique answer ready: placebo...
The more serious one probably dont have any answer, even the acoustical engineer.... If not, i want to hear one answer about that....
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update:
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
I replace the big Herkimer Diamond 334 inch stck with nano one in the plumbers cone bell cap in the center of the enclosure of the fans...
I just recived some by the mail... :)
Small H. D. are more powerful than the big one for sound.... Better higer frequencies resonance....
my best....
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UPDATE
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer" For few days now i listen to my room in nearfield and regular position, with 2 fans beside (2feet) each speakers, and 2 other fans firectly in front of them each side of my listening chair 8 feet from them...
Each 4 fans are modified with a cone bell or 2 in the center with a small and also a bigger herkimer diamond in the center of the metal plate enclosure...
Boy! for the price paid( i already owned them for the summer and for years) the acoustic is now , at last, to my absolute liking....
I liked it before, but the nearfield position was my best... Now the 2 positions being slightly different are never mind on par ....
For peanuts ANYBODY can transform his room, i prove it here....Be creative, dont listen to anybody except your ears...
You will know when you would reach the top of the mountain because it is no more possible to stop any music .....
Enjoy the sound, listen to the music we need it in this darkest hour....
My best to all....
I cannot imagine now how i will improve that except by upgrading .... But i dont have the money and frankly it is no more a need born of frustation...
I am happy like never, my dream of Hi-Fi comes true....
I am proud of myself....
I wish to all the same fun i had.... Thanks for reading my rants.... |
My last controls installation for the last month gives me something new and never experienced by me before....
Really the listening position at regular distance (8 feet and few inches) my lazy-boy chair extended and my ears at equal height with my tweeters, is on par with the nearfield position (3 feet)...
A bit more detailed in nearfield, but more pulsating in regular position, i listen to incredible bass for a 7 inches driver.... My room is so tightly controlled after these 2 years of mutiple listening experiments than i enjoy bass that i feel with my body.... Mission cyrus 781 speakers was very well known for their good bass and it is true....( No the walls dont vibrate but i dont need that to listen to cello or even organ )
If the 3 embeddings are Key of audio experience, the acoustic embedding is the more spectacular one.... People upgrade without knowing that at all....
A "reviewer" even say to me not long ago that acoustic controls importance are exagerated ! Think about that and think why he said so.... Because he was blinded by top of the line costly electronics, and never feel any lack in his own room... But someone who has never explore acoustic controls has no way to imagine what he lost by not doing so.... Believe me acoustic is the more important part of audio....Especially when your system is low cost.... People with high cost system feel that they are there in the top spot, without knowing better.... It is an illusion, electronic design matter, but much less than acoustic.... |
We dont know all the music we miss before the rightful embeddings process ends...
Upgrading urge is most of the times only a result of this ignorance and powerlessness in our own audio journey.... |
UPDATE
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
I just add some other brass plumber caps to the one of the center of each 3 fans...One caps had a bigger herkimer diamond stick in it than the other.... I just tape a band of thin copper sheet around the 2 caps and that on the 3 fans...
Guess what?
Yes a better S.Q. on all count...
My twin fans enchancer room controls are now complete.... resounding success... So much that i cannot imagine that the wood room enhancer that inspire my totally different enhancer is even better....
Hi-Fi for the poors is possible indeed.....
Someone can explain to me how a copper tape of few inches wrapped around 2 caps on the center of a fan enclosure can be so powerful for the acoustic of the room?
People dont wait any explanation to be creative.... And dont trust the negative naysayers, trust your ears....At the end of times all will be explained....
« We are here to love not to know»- Anonymus soul |
Correction error:
On the " twins fans" my brass cap plumbers are 1/4 inch not 3/4 inch.... Sorry... |
Hey magister! Wanted to report that I just took my first dive into the placebo pool with some very “quieting” hunks of Shungite This stuff is very weird. Kind of tingly when I hold several pieces in my hands. Is this stuff completely benign for humans? It sure does deepen the black levels on both audio and video. First "placebos" is not an explanation for increase positive effects step by step experiments resulting in many positive S.Q. for 2 years... When a pills increase his effects with time and dosage, it is no more a placebo... Second read about shungite for his non negative effect on health... Third for an improved effect in audio put some copper tape on one side of the shungite plate, i call that " a golden plate" and put it near , power supply, or the electrical central panel, or anywhere in upstream of the audio system but NOT near the dac,or the amplifier....( the copper side always external) You can try it behind the speakers electronics or cables....There will be a lowering of the noise floor that i cannot explain at low cost.... I am in the business to give to myself and others that dont have the money the Hi-Fi experience, mainly with homemade low cost methods that improve the mechanical (resonance-vibrations) embeddings of an audio system, the electrical embeddings by lowering the noise floor of the house, and the acoustical atmosphere of a room not only with passive materials but with active methods...All my ideas are free to use and experiment with.... Even if my system look like a joke, it is not one. trust me....I dont need to upgrade it at all, then at least he is good.... Most people dont know how to embed their audio system and know only one way to create a better S.Q. : very costly upgrading.... I know better and i want to give that advice to all: embedding an audio system is the KEY to a great S. Q. Never upgrade BEFORE embedding what you already owns.....Then you will listen to the true potential of what you already have in hands BEFORE changing it at higher cost, half of the times with no more complete satisfaction.... My best to you.... |
Hey magister! Wanted to report that I just took my first dive into the placebo pool with some very “quieting” hunks of Shungite This stuff is very weird. Kind of tingly when I hold several pieces in my hands. Is this stuff completely benign for humans? It sure does deepen the black levels on both audio and video. |
Update
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
The addition of these 3 brass plumbers caps on the plastic center round plate of the fans where i put the herkimer diamonds sticks has an incredible effect...
My invisible and silent readers, please think now about WHY only 3 pieces of 3/4 inch plumber brass cap (some kind of large cone bells) can produce so powerful sound correction?
These are part of my homemade active acoustical embeddings controls saga.... |
Where is geoffkait?
Is he in good health?
He was one of the few visitors here....
He was nowhere to be heard of for the last 3 weeks...
I hope all is right for him.... With this pandemic....
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UPDATE
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
I put the plumber caps 3/4 inches in the center of the fans and glued the mini stick herkimer diamond in them instead of gluing them directly in the center of the fans...
Great results strenghtening the mids frequencies and imaging without any loss on all other frequencies...
The twin fans (i use 3 in fact in my room) are ridiculous cost like any of my homemade controls means and gives me astonishing results....
Use your ears and you will save much money.... :) Alas! people are most of the times more confident in the price of the gear than on their own ears....For me only my ears judgment count, and all my homemade device controls cost peanuts....
My goal was and is always to create Hi-Fi experience for the poors.... The only solution is a rightful triple embeddings of the gear.....
Never go with the crowds, especially in audio matters.....
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UPDATE:
"TWIN FANS combing sound room enhancer"
My last idea was to add a third fan near my right speakers, the enclosure at the level of the tweeter and bass driver... ( with an herkimer diamond stick in the center of the enclosure)
Wow a better mid bass and bass this times....But the improvement is at all frequencies like with the 2 first fans with more in the highs for the 2 first one and in the bass with the third one.... No degradation on all counts with the H.D. in the center of the enclosures...
These 3 fans are my best ideas with the "golden plates" and with many others , each controls tweaks add something, but some are near miraculous...
These fans are astounding controls means for no cost or almost...
My inspiration comes from the Shakti hallograph, a kind of wooden 3 wood rays trident that we must put behind the speakers...My fans work in front of the speakers against the opposite wall, metal enclosure at the height of the drivers.... :)
I dont have the 1000 US dollars for that Shakti thing.... But i have 3 unused fans with metal circled enclosure that surely will finely ethereally COMB also the sound of the speakers like a comb will comb the ethereal hair of a beautiful woman....
Conclusion: i even doubt that the Hallograph will do best than my fans.... So good they are.....
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« Madness is the problem yes, but madness is the cure» -Groucho Marx |
I forgot to mention a better perception of the timbre and more natural one with an increased imaging really.......
This " Twin fan combing sound" is on par with my "golden plate" creation....
Viva Herkimer diamond !
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My new Homemade creation:
The "TWIN FANS COMBING SOUND" Room enhancer...
Imagine the sound in your room is like a pony tail of all hair behind the head...
Imagine you detach the pony tail, and that you comb the hairs...
I put 2 fans (the plastic one that you can play with, adjusting the height in summer with 3 or 4 blades) i put these 2 fans in front of the speakers at the same height than my tweeter.... I put (very important) a 3/4 inches Herkimer Diamond in the center of each cage enclosure....
Results: soundstage more open but especially better high frequencies and better imaging, better perception of all harmonics....
Incredible reverse engineering at virtually peanuts costs... (2 unused fans of 20 bucks each).
The audible effect is there ar regular distance 7 feet or in near listening 3 1/2 feet....
Enhance the room and the higher frequencies perception very much....
What can i say?
I got my idea reading about a wodden thing that cost 1,500 dollars....
Reverse engineering it with metal fan enclosure with an H. D. in the center to erase some resonance.....
Marvellous...
Basic Hi-Fi cost peanuts..... Use your ears more and less your eyes.....And the brain between the two....
Dont listen the so called self appointed scientist, and do not listen marketers, try yourself.... Experimenting is fun and rewarding....
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A remark for the not so awaken ears and mind:
Some will be tempted to attribute all my post to delusion and placebo effects...
Just a word to say that no PLACEBOS can accumulate positive effects on a 2 years period, incrementally, each times...
I am not deluded, if i am wrong like some think, i am totally hallucinating.... :)
My grid of stones for example, is only small positive rendering of the frequencies, one connection and one stone at each time.... The addition is at the end a great change....
But i introduce many new concepts after this grid of stones.... And i think myself at some time that some are more powerful, but when a connection has failed to work by relaxing itself from the stones, i hears the differencewhen i reinstated the connector cable to the stone the small increase is evident.... Trust me all increase in S.Q. are important even the small one...
No advice, nor upgrade, can replace our listening experiments.... Nothing can....because the listening experiments are the roots of creation in this audio hobby...
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UPDATE Herkimer diamonds.
I now added 300 hundred micro or small H.D. in 6 little bags on top of my Sansui transformer amplifier with some other stones that were already there for 2 years : Black Tourmaline, Jasper of kambaba, Madagascar banded agate....
The results are very good with an expanded imaging and clarity...The total cost of all H.D. are around 50 dollars...
People paying one thousand dollars for a cable that gives that will be pleased, imagine how i feel ?
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i just post this short explanation on an other thread about audiophiles...I guess i am one..... :)
« I always liked to play the same files i like the most....But i also use some files to rightfully assess the state of my audio system....My controls embeddings methods are complex and with my listening i can detect if there is some defects, or something amiss among all the hundreds of modifications implemented .... It is impossible to verify all of them one by one each day..... :)»
I just realized where i was on the scale of madmess....But trust me with these hundred of modifications my audio system is good and best than most think.... :)
Viva madness!
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UpDATE Herkimer diamonds...
Never put a golden plate near an amplifier...Some stones worlk miraculously good upstream an audio system, not so much on an amplifier ou near it.... Try on the cables not on the amplifier.... The sound will be too compressed...
But many other stones has good effects on the noise....Tourmaline, Kambba jasper, agate... But Herkimer diamonds are very powerful to clean the sound...
I now has added 5 little bags in all, 2 new today.... The effect is there increasing the clarity and imaging...
Viva Herkimer dimamond.... |
UPDATE about the connected stones grid:
I re-made some connection that were no more so much well connected in my stones grid and gain a better imaging after....
Conclusion i will use other materials than instant Tac adhesive when i will recreate all my audio systen in another room in the months or years to come in a new house.... :)
Remember that the idea of the connected stones grid comes to me one bit at a times on a 4 years period.... I improvise with cheap materials.... No one were silly so much to guide me with that idea at all.... Nobody i know never connected stones with cables and battery in parallells to an audio system and all across a room with Schumann generators... Some glimpse of the idea i pick in Bybee costly tweaks....Mine work marvel for peanuts tough....
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I will repeat something important for the very few that read this audio diary....
In these last 2 years my system upgrade by implementing these 3 embeddings protocols are on his final way...
I dont think that i will discover another level, like the level i was going through in the last 3 months...
There is a limit with any specific audio system, when is potential is reached by rightfully controlling the 3 embeddings... I am here now, at least it is what i think.... Incremental small improvement are always possible for sure, i was thinking that my system was finished and my goal reached 3 months ago and i was in complete error.... :)
But if in my next future posts i speak about an improvement, it will not be so shattering that those in the past....
Except if i create something like the "golden plates" or the cone bells acoustical grids... Who knows?
The goal is already in your own hands if you cannot change any cd or files you are listening to, because the music is too beautiful to be interrupted, whatever the recording engineering quality was, good or less good.... This is the sign....Nothing else....Music reign supreme now over sound quality.... :) |
UPDATE "golden plate"
I add a small golden plate with grade one shungite elite piece on the cable that go from the optical converter to my dac...
Great increase in clarity....
I add 3 little piece of elite shungite to the power cord where my computer is connected, same results...
lesson: Any spot upstream of your audio system need some stones or "golden plate"...
If the results is a little compression of the sound replace it by herkimer diamond or add some herkimer diamond to the golden plate.... |
UPDATE Herkimer diamonds:
I add athird little pack of H.D. to the 2 i already has added on top of of my Sansui amplifier transformer with the same positive results ....
After my "golden plates" Shungite+copper, the H.D. are the best minerals that create miracles in audio..... Tourmaline, kambaba jasper and agate and many others after that....
Remember that my herkimer diamonds were always used in complementratiry with other stones (shungite in the golden plate, or agate, or tourmaline mainly) to equilibrate and compensate the effects....It is in some way a tuning works....
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Thanks for your report bemused.
But i prefer homemade low cost solution for me for now.... Others can be interested tough.... My "golden plates" controls noise level all along my house electrical grid for low cost....
An important point also to keep in mind: ANY electronic component that "harmonize" or "tune" the electrical grid of the house will, in spite of his good "harmonizing" work, introduce, by way of his electronic active working components, a noise of his own to the encompassing noise floor of the electrical grid of the house.... Then even if the results are positive and very good there is a trade-off that will be introduced in the grid management....My own "golden plates" are passive materials only ,without electronical components, and then are able to reduce the noise level without a trade-off in the noise management.... :) |