Which double-knife-edge tonearm? SAEC? Micro? And which model? |
Hi there
i just bought the SX111fv model with a double edge knife tonearm.Do anyone know anything about this model. Also do anyone know where i can find an english version of the manual for both the SX111Fv model and the tonearm. Thanks |
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Radical Steve,
I read in a previous thread of yours that the Lenco smoked the Micro Seiki. Has your thinking changed on this topic. I would love to hear how the Micro, the Lenco and the Oracle Compare. A friend on the west coast just bought a Micro table and I am trying to get some clarity before jumping in to the murky water of analog! Bob |
Radical Steve,
I read in a previous thread of yours that the Lenco smoked the Micro Seiki. Has your thinking changed on this topic. I would love to hear how the Micro, the Lenco and the Oracle Compare. A friend on the west coast just bought a Micro table and I am trying to get some clarity before jumping in to the murky water of analog! A friend joBob |
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Well I have an RX-5000 and currently run it with a Verus rim drive, the RY-550) was used with a silk thread and the Verus adds more punch, the silk is smoother and and a bit more subdued. For comparison I have (or recently had) Clearaudio, Linn, Lenco, SP-10, Victor TT-101, Sony PS-X70, Micro BL-51, Oracle Delphi V SE.
I would characterize the Micros as being reliable, versatile, extremely well (over) engineered and no doubt frightfully expensive to make in today's money. The heavy platter and sealed bearing combine for effortless and quiet operation. My platter is made of gunmetal 16Kg, the base is solid Zinc 26Kg. Self adjusting metal feet. I dampen the plater with an audiolife gunmetal mat 6Kg; all for a total mass of 106 lbs! Backgrounds are black, groove noise is minimal, dynamic contrasts are big, speed is constant.
If you can ever find one, it will be a table for life, and even at several thousand dollars, hard to beat at any price I suspect. I do compare with my Oracle, which of course is a completely different beast in design terms, and both are extremely musical. The Micro can accept any type of arm and there are a range of metal armboards for different arm sizes and types. My Triplanar sounded best on the Micro and my ZYX UNIverse sometimes a bit brash on the Micro as it is very dynamic. I could go on for a long time, but the RX series is highly recommended. I have never felt the need to get a Micro DD and would stick with the Technics, Sony, Victor DD decks et al.
I would be happy to provide further insights if required
Steve |
Could you tell what kind of bearing and spindle/bushing construction the Micro-Seiki's have?
Chris |
I've owned a couple of the lower models (I dream of one day getting a big Micro Seiki). I ran an MR611 for about 21 years until last year when I replaced it with a BL51. As far as I am concerned Micro Seiki are one of the best TT makers ever. Great turntables with legendary reliability. Nothing, down to the globe in the light, has ever gone wrong on either of the Micro Seiki TTs I've owned.
They also sound great. Find one and have a listen for yourself.
DS |
Hello
I do not know the problem between USA and Micro-Seiki, but in France nobody want to talk about these turntables. As says Briceeboy, I totally agree. These turntables are built like sovietic tanks. Undestructible. This is the first point.
Next: you do not have to take months to adjust arms, feet or anything. It works as it. Well you must have a flat room, but you do not need to be graduate of an ingeenier university and must understand a 1000 pages owner manual with some esoteric words and magnetic incantations.
At last the sound: well, you just have to listen in the same comparation system, and make your own idea with some 150,000$ turntables.
I don't want to hurt anybody, but I own a DDX 1500 (the last Micro they made) from a long long time with a 505 Mark 3 tone arm and a Sumiko Blue Point Evo 3 (I suppose it's possible to have better with some others new cartridges). I frequently listen to other modern turnatables in french audio shop, just to assure myself. Not one, for instance, works as well mine Micro.
It's simply incredible, but true.
Just a last word. These turntables are not so big. Of course they are heavy (good point) but if you compare with some others, you will notice a reasonable size, wich can integrate your system quiet discreetly.
To resume we could say, who's afraid by Micro-Seiki ? Answer: everybody except Micro owners of course. You can run with closed eyes.
Pardon my english, and enjoy your Micro if you can find one.
Regards Yves from France |
The Micros from 1500 and up… are they any good? According to the American audio propaganda, which spent a lot of efforts to hide those tables for American consumer, they are just a “obscured” and “nothing special”. However, I would suggest you to find one Micro’s TT and learn why many of the audio lobbyist were so scared to let the Micros to move into the US market… or at least you will see the source of the numerous imitations. Yes, some Micro tables, arms and methodologies still are among the best and probably/unfortunately will be.
Regards
Romy the Cat |
I own a 1500 with vacuum platter and air bearing that I really love. I also have a Linn Sondek, Technics SP-10 MKII
and III, Rega Planer 3, Teac Tn-400, Denon DP-60 and a few
more. I prefer the Micro and the Technics SP-10MKIII to the others With the MKII running close behind. |
I own a DQX-500,not to many of those made.It,s not perfect but it,s drop dead quiet,gets goodlow bass, and distant spacial cues correct.Turn off the lights and the walls dissappear.All though I can,t find any parts for it anymore. It will be retiered to the attic soon. |
Hi Edle,
I'm a Micro owner and have been for about 12 years now. I started out with the 1500. At that time it smoked the SOTA, VPI and another popular table of the day that I can't recall the name. It really was in another league in every parameter. I then purchased an 8000 and it again took it to another level. I haven't raced it against the big boys today (Souther,Basis, Walker) but I would be willing to bet it would hold its own. The things are built like tanks and I have never had a problem, my old 1500 resides in a friends system and he's also never had a problem. As far as value you should be able to pick up a 1500 for about $1500.00. I really don't think you could do much better for the price. The price they want retail is insane. Good luck. |
