Meadowlark Shearwater vertical orientation.


A couple of nights ago I was listening to Joni Mitchell's "Court and Spark" and stood up in the middle of a song. The image focus and clarity seemed much better standing. It started me thinking about the vertical angle of the baffles when I decided to check how level the speakers were. I put a level against the back of the speakers and was surprised to note how far tilted back they were, especially the left speaker.
I got out a pair of wrenches and leveled the speakers. The difference in the sound while seated in the listening chair is amazing. I've listened to "Court and Spark" three times now just to ensure it wasn't my imagination. The soundstage is wider, the image is focused, the sound is more alive. Didn't realize what I was missing.
If you are listening to these wonderful speakers and haven't checked their tilt, put a level against the back to make sure they're straight. It's worth checking.
timrhu

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Tim, greetings, been a while since we conversed...
We all need projects, eh?

Regarding room tuning, I'm now endeavoring to create my own sound panels. Just picked up 10 Owens Corning 2'x4' panels of 700 series insulation. They're firm 1 to 4" thick fiberglass sheets. Perfect for diy sound panels. Cover 'em with fabric, and wala - sound panel!
I think I'm going to build frames for them to make them look real pretty...

Eventually I'll have pictures on my virtual system.

Re: tilt of speakers. I wondered about the Shearwaters with their backward slant. Seems to me it puts you off axis intentionally, as if that's advantageous. I don't get it. I'd even give them a bit forward lean and see what happens.
Got the Owens Corning fiberglass panels for $5.50 per! Found rich looking acoustically transparent fabric today at $2/yard. So far, panel cost is $7.50/panel! Now THAT's a deal! With decent but not too expensive wood trim, I should be able to build each one for under $20 as opposed to $100 each from some company. And they'll look worlds better!

Tim had the Vandersteens too in which the drivers were time aligned, but not angled backward. Seems to me Tim's comment about when he stood up the "image focus and clarity was much better" validates my point that the backward angle doesn't improve the sound of the speakers. My guess is that if Tim could somehow simulate the drivers being more directly facing him (i.e. leaning forward significantly- I'll let him do this test at his own risk) he would enjoy their sound significantly more. Straight up, it seems to me it's a design that more favors aesthetics over performance.
Of course, this could all be avoided if Tim determines to get rid of his listening chair! But maybe he won't stand for that (sorry, couldn't resist pun).

Tim, easy solution to all this: sell the Shearwaters and get yourself a pair of Eminent Technology LFT-8A's! (You are invited to come and audition mine).
Tim,
Yes, I'll definitely look at those other systems for their sound treatments...
Yes, I get the time alignment thing, but Vandersteen doesn't tilt the axis of the driver like Shearwaters.
If you did tilt the speakers forward but brought them back to upright position because you didn't hear any distinct advantage, then possibly the reason you're liking what you hear when you stand up is due to the reflected sound coming off the ceiling. Possibly that effect is stronger closer to the ceiling and makes the speaker sound "fuller". Effects like that can be very subtle but pleasing. Just a guess.
Tim, yes, looked at the Vandersteen pics and it shows the midrange on the slant. Looks like the tweeter is more upright.
It would be interesting to hear from someone who can explain why this is supposed to be preferable to facing the driver straight ahead.