McIntosh C100, Ayre K1 or Mark Levinson 380/380S?

You made a great choice! The C200 is much better than the C100. I always felt the latter was veiled. The C200 is a world class music maker. I would like to have one myself!

Arthur

Many thanks all for your thoughts and comments. I did eventually make a decision and, for better or worse, managed to get a very good deal on a McIntosh C200. So far I am pleased with my choice and it has certainly got me raiding my CD collection again!
Best regards

Kurt's made some great fundamental points. FYI if remote control becomes a must have, I'd like to point out that the Ayre's remote is, I believe, a gear driven motor turning attenuators, maintaining the purity of one of the most important components within any preamplifier.

How bout another fly in the ointment? This is a little known brand built personally by the designer. Don't be frightened by the obscurity of its popularity. Many others and myself have owned his work for many years and his support is outstanding. Do a search over at AA, there is one post where this pre is compared with the K1 and a couple of other top tier pre's.

http://www.reflectionaudio.com/

I have a K1xe for a few years now (updated from a K1), and it's bullet proof and fabulous.

My suggestion is to narrow down what you really want in a preamp, and what you don't need. This will help you decide which preamp is right for you

For instance, which of these features do you really want:

A. Remote Control (This is a must for some people, like me, but to others, they feel it can affect the sonics of the unit. Certain manufacuturers deal with the sonic impact in different ways.)

B. Phono Stage (If you don't run an analog source, or if you already have a separate phono preamp, you don't need it. But if you planning on getting one in the future, it is nice to have it available.)

C. Balanced or Single ended inputs and outputs

D. Number of inputs (Just a few or lots of inputs)

E. Tube or Solid State (i.e. Do you wish to make the music warmer, or get more detail, or a combination of the two? Do you like tube rolling, or hate tube rushing? There are many factors in choosing between the two.)

F. Aesthetics (This is not so much a feature, as it is a question of whether the unit will "fit" with the rest of your system. This not a necessary requirement obviously, but it just might tip the scales between two units that have both met all your requirements otherwise.)

My two cents worth.

Many thanks for all your responses. I am still researching and hunting! I think that the Ayre K1 (x or xe) would be my ideal, but I am also being seduced by the McIntosh C2200 (tube), the Hovland HP-100 (tube) and the Sony TAE1 (!). Any comments, views or suggestions? Thanks

I have the Ayre K-1xe, and I LOVE it. It is the best sounding preamp I have ever heard, and to me sounds better than the Audio Research Ref. II Mk. II that I traded in on it. Plus, I had a lot of trouble with the ARC preamp. It kept blowing a big expensive tube, and getting it serviced at the factory did not help the problem.

Marantz does not currently have the "high prestige/great performance" reputation that it earned in the past. However, with design & oversight by Ken Ishiwata, they have created a gem in their top-of-the-line preamp. Before you invest big bucks, you should listen to the Marantz SC-7S1. (I am not involved with Marantz other than as a pleased purchaser,)

info- http://us.marantz.com/Products/646.asp

all are great, but the mac offeres tthe best value and investment

Obviously, the best thing to do is to demo them yourself, however, I will discuss what I know of two of the ones you mentioned.

I have the Ayre K-1XE preamp, and it is the cornerstone of my system. (I doubt I will be upgrading beyond it to be honest.)

This preamp is very neutral, has great transparency, and has good frequency extension. It has a very musical sound, that I normally would not associate with solid state. It is not warm per se, but it really does not sound solid state either, IMHO anyway. (Note: I would not consider this to be a warm sounding preamp however. If you desire that, I suggest a tube preamp, like a ARC Ref. series, a Hovland, or a CAT Ultimate.) It has 6 inputs, 3 SE and 3 XLR. It is a fully balanced design. I like having so many inputs, as I use a CD, CD-R, SACD, Turntable and a tuner. (Damn, I need one more balanced component to fill 'er up!!) The build quality is excellent. (And while it does not matter to the sound quality, I like the aesthetics of the unit too.)

It has the (optional) remote control. (Note: not all of the top end preamps have a remote option, and I really like having a remote, since I use a analog source mostly), although it does only control the volume and muting).

It also has (optional) phono boards that are very good. This makes the phono stage about as good as you can get in a full function preamp. It has the deep dark background that I really like. You can get a better phono stage, if you are willing to spend big time cash for something like a Manley Steelhead or a Basis ASR Exclusive. (I will point out that the phono stage uses the XLR inputs, like the Basis ASR does. So you will likely either need to use adapters or have your tonearm wire reterminated.)

I did demo the Mark Levinson 380S, and it was good preamp, but I prefer my Ayre, as it seemed, to me at least, a little less solid state sounding. It seemed a little analytical to me. (However, if you already have a warm sounding system, this might not be a concern.) I was running an all solid state system at the time, and I did not want too much of the solid state sound. The build quality is top notch.

I know nothing about the McIntosh.

Hope this helps.

Good Luck in your search.