Looking For 90% of the performane of the super expensive cables for much less money


I currently have a system which consists of Vandersteen 5A's, THor Audio TP-150 tubed monoblocks, Thor Line Stage and Thor phono stage, Marantz SACD player SA-114 and will take delivery of the VPI Prime Scout with a Sumiko EVOS 3 Cartridge. I am currently using LAT International Speaker Cables, Power Cords and Interconnects. (They are no longer in business). I am in immediate  need of turntable cables and would like to update my new speaker cables and interconnects. Not willing to spend thousands on this upgrade. Seeking to capture as much of the "magic" that the super expensive cables deliver but at a more realistic price point. I understand that I have really good quality equipment, but at this stage of my life cannot allocate mega dollars towards cables.
 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 
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I make cables with Duelund wire. If you are into DIY you can also. Sold $2000 Cables for these and these sound better. The Duelund stranded copper wire in oil impregnated cotton is wonderful and as good as the big dollar cables I have owned. Better than most really. No need to spend more. $160 for ICs and some $200-$250 for speaker cables.  
Well gaps and speculations. There’s a whole lotta faith going on in what we term science today. No way around it as it is a natural outcome of our imperfect and incomplete human condition and wisdom. A clear thinker such as yourself must understand this to be the case in some instances? 
Actually we do have examples of faith based notions that are presented to us as science. The “science”of the earth’s age, earth’s formation and creation, Big Bang etc... all have major gaps that require “faith”.  
What you asked for is fine and I never said it was not? I simply said I made a mistake of going down this tangent and let’s get back to cables.  No more, no less.  No break needed. Now I have no idea what you are talking about. 


No, I can’t help.  But I did already help the OP with the wire he should use.  
To clarify I did not start this and just read the posts before mine. My mistake was continuing it. You may have made the same mistake it seems. It depends on wether or not you think it was a mistake.
Back to the OP. You should do some searching on the Duelund stranded copper wire in cotton. The 16 gauge makes wonderful ICs and speaker cables. It costs $10 a meter at Parts Connextion. Many Aphiles here and folks like Jim Smith and Jeff Day have also found this wire to be a real gem.

https://www.partsconnexion.com/duelund-speaker-cable.html

No need to terminate for speaker cables as you can just use the bare wire.

You can use $9 Cardas RCA connectors from Sonic Craft for an outstanding pair of ICs. If you don’t have the DIY skills and also want your speaker cables terminated I can certainly help you with that.

The 12 gauge Duelund wire is also great for speaker cables if you need longer runs and use a higher powered SS amp.
Ok @geoffkait we just could not possibly disagree more and let’s leave it at that. No way is this forum the place to try and sort this argument out. I should not have tried to offer a differing view on this off topic tangent.   My bad. 
Back to affordable cables.
Many of us Aphiles, yes even known ones of good assumed audio character here on the Gon, have sold our big dollar branded cables and made DIY ICs and speaker cables using Duelund stranded copper wire in cotton. These certainly do offer the kind of sound quality found in a great many of the branded cables selling for up to $2000 a set. Also, several branded cable makers now use this bulk wire in their designs. Also, several noted and respected audio gurus such as Jim Smith also understand how great this wire is. No, not everyone would use it because there would be no differentiation in the marketplace, no choices, not enough profit margin, and mostly because we Aphiles cannot agree on what sounds good.

Unfortunately I, like many fellow audio enthusiasts, have owned far too many brands of audio cable over the years. I have spent too much money as I look back now on these cables. I have also made many DIY cables with varying degrees of sonic success. The newer Duelund bulk wire is a special find and does offer a viable means for the audio enthusiast to spend far less money on cabling and achieve great sound.


RJA, I make them under the Acoustic BBQ brand. The Tweak Geek makes them, Parts Connextion makes them.
If you ride 200 miles weekly and or race it is certainly reasonable to buy a $2000 -$4000 wheel set for your bike. If you listen to music 20 hours or more weekly it is certainly reasonable to buy nice audio cables.  What’s the problem? I do both and enjoy good wheels and wires.  Yes...wheels and wires.