Longer speaker cables or interconnects

“i have akways had trouble getting slamming but clean bass.”

That’s indicative of lack of isolation for electronics. Also, while the wall is often a better location than the floor, especially trampoline floors and upper floors, the problem remains the entire building structure is shaking, including the walls.

Everything should be isolated, including cables. - old audiophile axiom

I'll defer to an expert whose advice tends to make a lot of sense because he justifies his claims either with measurable scientific fact, or from his extensive experience in the industry.  Plus I've learned a lot from watching his video series and fact-checking some of his claims.  For your needs, I recommend watching the video in its 7-minute entirety.  (Actually you can skip the first 1:30 without missing any relevant information if you want.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5WFZx6-2hA

jperry,

thanks for the link but I’m not going to spend $2800 for amp platforms for the same reason I’m not gonna spend a lot of money for cables.

My whole system cost cost me no more than $17,000. I prefer to find a way to get 90% of performance of a $200K system while spending 10% of the money. I am more or less at that spot, if I include what I just spent on the listening room.

eg my solution for isolating the table from vibrations - rather than spend $1000s on an isolation platform was to simply bolt the platform that the table was sitting on to a 18” thick brick wall. I will do that for the table at the new space. I also kept the dust cover down when playing music, as the arm and cartridge could sometimes generate feedback from the speakers.

dill,

the components are:

Cartridges - Koetsu Onyx; van den Hul Grasshopper, Benz Micro, Grado for the 78s
Arm - Sumiko MMT
Table - VPI HW MK IV with SAM
Preamp - Beard P505 upgraded with Jansen caps
Amps - Julius Futterman OTL3s, converted to triode and upgraded with Jansen caps by Jon Specter, formerly of NY Audiolabs (the manufacturer of these amps) and cousin of Al Cooper of Highway 61, Blood Sweat & Tears founder and Stills Cooper Bloomfield Super Sessions
Crossovers - Mastering Labs, upgraded with Jansen caps
Speakers - Altec Lansing 604Cs
Subwoofer - Velodyne ULD-15

kacomess,

I know George Kay of Moscode. If you want it fixed, I can connect you. He lives in New Hampshire. 

elizabeth,

i have akways had trouble getting slamming but clean bass. 

Tangential to the topic but...Futterman OTL! Nice amps, indeed. I had a NYAL Mosode 300 and then it suddenly stopped working. Nobody on the west coast at the time (~10 years ago) seemed to be able to fix it.

What are the components?

I use long speaker runs and am currently getting some of the best sound I have had. As long as the gauge is at least 12ga you will be just fine. No worries about signal loss etc.....

I use 10 gauge. No loss of bass or sound quality at all compared to 8 foot runs as I have compared with my particular 10 gauge cable.

Thank you steakster.

It seems the preponderance of opinion is to put the amps near the speakers. However, I wonder about the wisdom of placing two Julius Futterman OTL3s converted to triode with eight 6LF6 tubes each on the floor next to Altec 604Cs and the likelihood of the tubes picking up mechanical vibrations from the drivers.

Thoughts?