Listening skills: How do you learn to listen?


Double-entendre. 


Had a few experiences lately that together were a stark reminder of something known for a long time, because I lived it myself.  

In the beginning, or at any rate going back to about 1991, I was unable to hear any difference between different CD players and DACs. Even some amplifiers, they might not sound exactly the same but I was hard pressed to say why.  

This went on for a long time. Months. Many months. Like okay a year. Whatever. During which time I was driving around hitting all the Seattle/Portland area stores listening to everything I could find. About the only difference big enough to be sure of was receivers. They for sure are crap. But even there it was hard to say exactly in what way. Just the difference there was glaring enough it was obvious this is not the way to go. But that was about it.    

All during this time of course I was reading Stereophile and studying all the reviews and building up a vocabulary of audiophile terms. The problem, seen clearly as usual only in the rear view mirror, was not really being able to match up the terminology with what I was hearing. I had words, and sounds, but without meaning, having no real link or connection between them.  

One day after yet another frustrating trip to Definitive I came home and put on my XLO Test CD and was listening to the Michael Ruff track Poor Boy when it hit me, THIS IS THAT SOUND!!!  

What sound? Good question! The better high end gear is more full and round and liquid and less etched or grainy. Poor Boy is Sheffield, all tube, and so even though being played from CD through my grainy etched mid-fi the tubey magic came through enough to trigger the elusive connection. THIS is "that sound"!  

Once triggered, this realization grew and spread real fast. In no time at all it became easy to hear differences between all kinds of things. "No time at all" was probably months, but seemed like no time at all compared to how long I was going nowhere.  

What happened? There are a near infinite number of different sonic characteristics. Attack and decay, fundamental tone, harmonic, and timbre, those were a few of the early ones I was able to get a handle on- but the list goes on and on.  

Just to go by experience, reading reviews, and talking to other audiophiles it would seem most of us spend an awful lot of time concentrating real hard on our own little list of these terms. We have our personal audiophile checklist and dutifully run down the list. The list has its uses but no matter how extensive the list becomes it always remains a tiny little blip on the infinite list of all there is.  

So what brought this to mind is recently a couple guys, several in fact, heard some of the coolest most impressive stuff I know and said....meh. Not hearing it.  

This is not a case of they prefer something else. This is not hearing any difference whatsoever. At all. None. Nada. Zip.

Like me, back in the day, with CD.  

These are not noobs either. We're talking serious, seasoned, experienced audiophiles here.

I'm not even sure it comes down to what they are listening for. Like me in '91, hard to know what you're listening for until you know what you're listening for.  

Which comes first?
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Now you see why I'd rather feed the chickens. My chicken cackle a whole lot less..

Regards

jetter
2,284 posts08-29-2021 2:49am
Now you see why I’d rather feed the chickens. My chicken cackle a whole lot less..
Well you know out here in Vermont we have lots of farms that have chickens, horses and pigs, and I am sure if you like feeding them they would gladly let you, for free. And while you are at it if you want you can feed and milk the cows, shovel the sh*t, fertilize, till, plant and harvest the fields, right before haying and bailing, from before dawn until after dusk, everyday, whether it’s -30 or 100 degrees, forget about vacations.

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I’m in CA, now. I was raised on a working farm, that is where I started working on equipment. Red Bone hounds, pigs, no cattle, 3, 40 acre plots and one 60. Sweet corn, tomatoes, cabbage, lettuce.

I also worked on active well head pump stations.. (Gas and oil country). My dad had the normal 5 jobs (at one time) after he got back from Vietnam, Standard oil (well heads), the water district, the mobile JD mechanic, owner of the Richfield service station and worked the farm with my Uncle who was one of 3 local Vets that did heard work..

Beefalo was all the rage on Texas Cattle Co. Island farms. I hated those things.. I had to help with inoculations, calving, and NUT cuttin’. Every now and then a nose ring for a stubborn bull or cow. (that was always fun)

25-120 degree weather.

I’ve never mucked cattle, only horses, BUT I did get stuck milking two cows we had every other Sunday while me Mums went to church. The odd weekend, when my mom stayed home on Sunday, Me and my Grandmother would go.

The older I got the more I did. 6 to 61, broken neck, that did slow me down.. Not much.. 67 now.

I was here on AG as Diepiolet for 10 years, away for 5 and re registered as oldhvymec.. I’m a 20+ year vet..

It’s not the length of anyone time on AG, it’s their contribution..

Never met a person I didn’t like, BUT in Vermont don’t you guy’s still have the CRAZY Quaid brother.. Randy, and great syrup? :-)

BTW we have Islands in our delta as big a Vermont. I know I’ve sandbagged for a solid week behind levees worries and winter storms..
Cattle country THEN, not so much now..

NOW I’ll move on if I like.. Slowly to boot..

BUT only to feed my chickens, if I want.. Vermont Yankee Yak, as my granny would say. in her Gaelic, Texas accent..

Regards..