Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

@audio-b-dog 

 I Want To See the Bright Lights Tonight and Pour Down Like Silver for earlier in their career. Shoot Out the Lights from later on. The duo tune in the link is from Pour Down, a record heavily influenced by their involvement with Sufism.

For R. on his own, try his Live From Austin Texas for a start. It’s half acoustic, half electric. Or, from the same tour: Semi Detached Mock Tudor. A nice all acoustic disc is Celtschmerz. He has quite a catalogue at this point. His most intense electric playing is live, for sure. And he is one hell of a guitar player. 

As has been suggested, check out Fairport Convention. I’d suggest you start with Liege and Leaf. Full House is just the boys, without Denny.

Also Sandy Denny solo albums.

Steeleye Span is in a somewhat similar vein. 

John Martyn is another very gifted British singer-songwriter. Try Bless the Weather, Solid Air, and for a jazzier flavor, One World.

Then there is Pentangle. The Pentangle, Sweet Child, Basket of Light. 

And... Bert Jansch and John Renbourn, together and apart. 

You might like LA Turnaround by Jansch. 

The UK has produced so many incredible musical talents.

 

RT covering J. Mitchell at a J. Mitchell dedication show:  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h54rRq2SAv0&list=RDAJA2jFIRxp0&index=2

 

 

 

 

So you have been researching this subject for over 15 years. No doubt many have done research for this period or longer just to discover their basic premise was wrong. Lucky though that now I dont think any metric is really checked and any theory can find it's followers.

Also just because a perceived slight exists among some for a certain period of time, doesnt mean that this perception is anything more than a creation of media or aggressive propaganda. 

In the future you should avoid phrases like "slapped back". Who knows you may be correct, but your post betrays I think what may be a number of preexisting biases. 

Kind of like when someone told me the other day that over 800 people die per day in the U.S. from poverty.

Anyway if anything ever comes of your research then good for you. 

@audio-b-dog 

There might be two albums called "Semi Detached Mock Tudor". The one I meant was "Richard Thompson Band Live: Semi Detached Mock Tudor".  

@audition__audio 

Actually, I researched my way into this subject. I never meant to write about it, but one book led to another. I have researched back to the caves, and there is strong evidence that women were cave painters and shamans. A number of books suggest this.

Women were equal to men prior to about 7 or 8 thousand years ago. If you read the second Adam and Eve story in the Torah, that slaps women back pretty badly. Adam becomes Eve's master, so to speak. And the symbols of the tree and serpent that become tabboo were the symbols of the goddess culture that reigned for at least 30,000 years. How do we know? Archaeologists have found carvings that only portray women assumed to be goddesses. No male gods until at least 10,000 years ago.

In the caves they found special burials. 40,000 years ago a woman was buried in the back of a cave in a small boat with thousands of black beads that took thousands of man hours to carve. Women have been found in other special burials in the upper and middle Paleolithic. Not men. I think it's clear that women had inherint powers. I think they were more sensitive to their intuition, but whatever they were the shamans and special people.

So, obviously things changed, and that change was supported in writing, something men took control over. 

So, I'm going back to the beginnings of humanity. And women have been slapped back many times. By religion. That's documented. It's not perceived slights that happen in our culture that I've spent 15 years studying. It's the history of humanity. 

@stuartk 

I'll take a look at some of the ones I haven't heard of. I have Pentangle albums, and I know Sandy Denny and John Renbourn. You need to give me some time, though, to listen to all the music you've suggested. I'm still working my way through the Bluegrass list. It's fun.

Any reaction to the Van Morrison post? Did you hear anything special in his voice that you hadn't heard before? I think a lot of people peg him as the Brown Eyed Girl commercial singer.