Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqjsFTjLNyE

If we take the 4 notes in their 4 possible combinations we get (someone please correct this if I’ve made any mistakes) : 

A, C, G, D = R, b3, b7,11 or sus 4   = Am7/11

C, G, D, A = R, 5, 9, 6                      = C add 6/9 (no 3rd)

G, D, A, C = R, 5, 9, 11 or sus 4      = G add 9/11 (no 3rd) or G add 9 sus4

D, A, C, G = R, 5, b7, 11 or sus 4    = D7 sus 4

I wonder how these chords played as a progression might affect our DNA...

 

 

I am posting a Van Morrison song that I wanted to post on the jazz forum, but I knew that others would not consider this song jazz. Yet I listen to it the way I listen to jazz. Not intricate, heady jazz, but something that lifts my spirit. I consider Van Morrison's voice to be the improv lead. So, go ahead and slap me across the face and say, "No way that's jazz."

https://www.google.com/search?q=van+morrison+listen+to+the+lion+youtube&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS945US945&oq=van+morrison+listen+to+the+lion+youtube&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRhAMgoIAhAAGIAEGKIEMgoIAxAAGIAEGKIE0gEKMjA5ODRqMGoxNagCDLACAfEFlobFLaaKsn4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:56db913d,vid:xgPJtIpQtjo,st:0

This year I’ve seemingly upped my listening when it comes to female vocals driven music but I've added a post rock, experimental HipHop and some electronic stuff in there

 

Here are some of my most listened albums this year:

Cina Soul - Did I Lie (https://ziiki.ffm.to/didilie)

Yaya Bey - do it afraid (https://drinksumwtr.lnk.to/yaya-bey-do-it-afraid)

Little Simz - Lotus (https://lnk.to/2OLdEEUt)

Miley Cyrus - Something Beautiful (https://mileycyrus.lnk.to/SomethingBeautiful)

Kilo Kish - negotiations (https://independent.ffm.to/negotiations)

Ray Vaughn - The Good The Bad The Dollar Menu (https://rayvaughn.lnk.to/TGTBTD)

FM Skyline and Equip - Music 2 (https://fmskyline.bandcamp.com/album/music-2)

Windows 96 - Awkward Dance Music(https://windows96.bandcamp.com/album/awkward-dance-music)

Swans - Birthing (https://swans.bandcamp.com/album/birthing)

Bruit ≤ - The Age of Ephemerality (https://orcd.co/bruit)

 

 

@stuartk,

I like a lot of ideas in the youtube you posted. I think there is no question that music affects our emotions and moods. I have no idea what it means to affect our DNA. Although, I think that since I've begun listening to music all morning and early afternoon, I have become more "mellow" and accepting. I don't get stressed out the way I used to.

As for your series of notes, I don't have an instrument to play them and I can't imagine them in my head. Maybe you'll play with them on your guitar? It seems like the Mhiz posted on the youtube were all mid-bass?

As for patterning in general, I did a lot of reading about fractals and complexity a number of years ago. I've also read some interesting books on the evolution of the universe. The British physicist Paul Davies has written about the universe and God. I read a book about the Gaia Theory by James Lovelock many years ago. He talks about the universe and the earth being living beings. Mathematical fractals correspond to the shapes of leaves and other natural occurrences. An artist friend talked to me about some studies that found fractals in Jackson Pollack's art. 

I often wonder what the earliest music must have sounded like. I assume it had a strong beat and the melody from a flute or whatever was less important than it is today. Music is the only art that exists in time, as @mahgister has talked about, and I have a feeling that the beats in time are fundamental to any human music.

@kofibaffour,

Thank you for the list. I'll listen to the ladies later. I've been listening to Robyn as I write this because it's late in the day and I need a kick in the ass. I, too, love the female voice. Maybe I'll post some youtube examples later.

In the beginning there was not speech on one side music on the other. Social interaction must had been motivated by rythms to unite the tribe in a work.

Speech dont exist without body members gestures rythms and without throat/mouth motivated  tonal sound (continuous vowel and discontinuous consonants) and specific body timbre.

In the beginning speech and music are one, and when they separate in the days activities they reunite in the calm of night.

Speech makes music through not only singing but speaking. And music spoke as in the Nigeria the Yoruba they call their drum "talking Drums". Yoruba is the name of a tribe of his language and of his drums.

 

Also music not only exist in time but exist as time itself, at least a time of his own.

Musical time is a specific musical concept...Musical time cannot be reduced to measurable physical time. It is a qualitative rythmic time linked to the body gestures felt as a rythm.

here from the web a few concepts  about musical time you certainly know:

«Beat: The basic unit of time in music, providing a regular pulse. 

Tempo: The speed of the music, often measured in beats per minute (BPM)

Meter: The grouping of beats into recurring patterns, indicated by time signatures.

Measure (or Bar): A segment of time corresponding to a specific number of beats, separated by bar lines

Time Signature: A notation that indicates the meter, specifying the number of beats per measure and the type of note that receives one beat. 

Rhythm: The arrangement of sounds and silences in time, encompassing note durations, rests, and patterns»

 

Now these concepts come from written classical music.When i speak about musical time ( Ansermet wrote a huge book about it) i spoke mainly from the phenomenology of felt conscious qualitative  time(a duration said Bergson debating with Einstein) 

In our evolution it was the body improvising gestures that created his own time as a meaningful content to be repeated or commented by others body gestures as a musical and spoken answer in the tribe or in the social group.

 

 

I often wonder what the earliest music must have sounded like. I assume it had a strong beat and the melody from a flute or whatever was less important than it is today. Music is the only art that exists in time, as @mahgister has talked about, and I have a feeling that the beats in time are fundamental to any human music.