Last Critical Tweak… how to quell occasional high harshness…?


Dear Audiogon Community,

 

I am so impressed with the insight and obsession we all share with this musical alchemy of electrons. I write to address a simple problem through as simple (and hopefully relatively inexpensively) as possible… though before such elegant maneuvers, an overly verbose and fussy description:

 

 

Harshness in the highs…. Trumpets and some vocals now make my ears shrill at times. My aging ears! It is so close to musical bliss, but this slight edgyness must be quelled!

 

This song, horns seem to shatter. 

This song, vocals seem to pierce. 

 

I recently leveled an entirely new system. My last tweak was to move my main gain tube to Mullards, and the Brimar NOS tubes to the outer gain location. The mullards afforded a richness and expansiveness, a forward mid and elegance, but introduced the occasional shrillness which I seek to quell. 

 

My musical electron dance is as follows on the streaming side:

 

Nagra Streamer —> Audio Zen MC2 Coax —> Halo Audio Spring 2 Level 3 Kitsune —> Duelund 16 GA Interconnect —> Prima Luna Dialogue Premium HP —> Brimar NOS outer tube and Mullard NOS main gain tube —> Gold Lion KT77 Power tubes —> Duelund 16GA Speaker wire —> Pure Audio Project Duet Horn’s with a gold silver oil Mundorf Cap upgrade —> Duelund wire to the horn and the 15” Woofer. 

 

Fun yes! Devine! But how to quell this one last occasional shrillness?

 

Thoughts:

-Speaker Wire to 12 GA

-DAC - Amp Interconnect changed to something that mellows out the shrill

-Main Gain tube upgraded from a Mullard NOS to something else… (I believe there was a slightly higher grade Mullard?)

-Nagra Stream - DAC Coax cable upgraded to something mellower….?

 

Open to any and all suggestions! Thank you so much for your insights. 

 

R. 

whyrichard

Showing 1 response by newbee

It could be most anything but if it is only occasional high frequency issues you might want to try something like a Loki 4 band equalizer between your source and integrated amp. It has a bypass switch you can use to defeat it when not needed.

But, since it just happened with a system change, if you are up to it financially you might try using different tubes (don't ignore new production tubes, they can work) or new cable (depending on the length needed). I never use less that 12 gauge, most often 10 ga. If you don't understand the differences in cables you might just want to listen to the opposite poles of possibilities on the cheap to see what kind of sound you might like. For example some 10ga Belden and 12 Ga Mogami. Both cheap but will give you some idea which direction you need to be going. 

Logically since you have just 'leveled your system' (whatever that might mean) you might just want to revisit what you are trying to do. If it means you are trying to get a flat frequency response at your listening position you may have introduced the problem which is not consonant with your hearing ability. An imbalance of the frequency response of your ears and system might just be the cause of the problem. For example, the loss of hearing in the highs (mostly overtones) can affect what you hear (emphasized) in the lower range and actually make it sound bright. Not an uncommon experience for some older men who don't recognize the possible effect of age induced hearing loss. 

A complex issue to solve, I don't envy you. :-)