Kirmuss Cleaning System Discuss?


Looking at the Kirmuss system and their process is explained in detail and the concepts are a bit more detailed than other discussions. 

Yeah the presenter in a lab coat brings back memories of Matthew Polk. But aside from that the process appears to have merits.

 

Any thoughts or observations?

neonknight

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That is interesting that it worked well. Because that seems to lead credence to the ideas of using the surfactant to get the cleaning power deeper into the grooves. 

 

Did you notice the tell tale signs on records as you did the second or third cleaning step with reapplying the surfactant and running it though another cycle?

The process does seem time consuming. But is the unit quiet enough that it can be in the same room while you work on cleaning? With my current ultrasonic tank I have it in the garage cause its too loud to listen to. 

 

@tom2015 Well the reality is every company needs a story to separate itself from their competitors. We can say the product sells itself, but that really isn't the truth. 

Here are my thoughts. 

 

As some have mentioned, you don't have to go through the entire process if you don't think its necessary. It functions as any other ultrasonic tank. Although it becomes an expensive system to do so. 

The idea that records spacing and direction of the ultrasonic devices matters, appears to make sense, and the tests with foil corroborate this. I cannot see how this arrangement cannot be beneficial. 

The two 33 1/3 record is a limitation for sure. Wish it could do more. But the drop in the slot set up is convenient and that looks beneficial. 

Changing fluid after 25 records. This point should apply to any ultrasonic tank, as all records will be dirty to an extent. If you are using it for touch up, then I imagine the time interval can be extended. Unless you can filter to the micron level every tank is going to suffer from this issue. 

Finally, the noise level question is in regards to using it in my dining room which is just off my audio room. It would be nice to run it and still have music playing in the background while I wait. I have a 2 by 2 cube I have records in which would be a nice place to store it. I can use the dining room table for sleeves and processing while I clean, and then put everything away in a jiffy. If I can listen to casual music during the process that is a plus. 

 

Oh as far as drying goes. I have noticed in my current ultrasonic tank that records come out pretty dry as is, and given a bit of time they do air dry quickly. I also tried drying with a VPI 16.5 and then later a Record Doctor since its orientation is more favorable for doing ultrasonic cleaned records. I am not convinced this is a benefit over air drying. I think the opportunity to add noise exists here.