Can you use the Kirmuss Ultrasonic cleaner without the lengthy white paste steps
I am attracted to the Kirmuss Ultrasonic cleaner but not happy about the lengthy process ( white paste removal and habnd drying) after the cavitation cleaning. I was wondering if I could skip the latter and just use the cavitation cycle followed by a distilled water rinse and dry on my vacuum VPI. Any thoughts
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It is a PITA. Kirmuss uses a lower frequency if I remember correctly so, it may not work well with just distilled water. You will have to play it by ear. I would never rub my records that way. It is too easy for abrasive contaminants to get into the mix and scratch things up. You could try various solutions followed by a rinse and your old machine. I have no idea which solution works best. If it were me I would try distilled water, 5% isopropanol and 5% surfactant. You can use the surfactant that came with the Kirmuss. This thinking comes from what I have read not my own experimentation as I very rarely clean records. Great person to get advise from. Now you are going to get posts on how poisonous isopropanol is to records:) |
The first cycle is mainly for surface dust. After that, if you don't apply the surfactant, the ultrasonic is not as effective for deep cleaning. I had an email exchange with Mr. Kirmuss and he recommended switching to 2 minute cycles until the white paste is gone. This cuts down the process time. Once the record is clean, hand drying is easy. I have a Loricraft and thought I would use it for drying but I don't bother. |
The problem is that you risk damaging the stylus with the white paste if it’s disturbed and not fully removed. You should read Fremer’s review. I have cleaned about 50 LPs with the Kirmuss. Some records were good with 2 cycles, some needed 10 cycles, most between 3 and 4. The process varies on the LP because it’s more of a deep cleaning. With the Loricraft just about every record went through the exact same process. That said, I get better results with the Kirmuss. If an LP just needs a surface cleaning use the VPI on it’s own. If it’s noisy or sounds rolled off on top, do the Kirmuss cleaning as directed. I don’t think I would use both machines. Hand drying is easy. |
I have the Kirmuss. I don’t follow their recommended procedure. I tried it but I prefer my current method. My method consist of doing a per-clean with my spin clean and Wash it cleaner, followed by the Kirmuss using Tergikleen. Then I vacuum clean with my project using TM-8. I am pleased with the results |
tonyptony553 posts09-20-2019 10:47amHere is the video from RMAF 2019 of a panel discussion on record cleaning: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/RMAF_2019/Videos/Record_Cleaning_Made_Difficult.htm |
Thank you for the link. Here is a link to a video where he recommends Tergikleen. https://youtu.be/XWMSpvTqM2A |