@mulveling - while I’ve not personally heard them yet, the Empyrian 2’s and the Elites are not supposed to be as dark/thick as the original Empyrians are.
That’s true. My listening experience was with the original Empyrean version. It was "too much" richness. I much preferred Stax, Susvara, and then Focal Utopia, in that order. Stellia were also good but perhaps a little bright. The round-driver (Omega) Stax are extremely hard to drive well enough to shine, however - and they generally need their own dedicated amplifiers you can’t use with other headphones (e.g. Headamp Blue Hawaii SE). Susvara impressed the hell out of me with a much more modest amplifier (Headamp GS-X mini).